MACRO to change automation in cycle markers

Hi,

I have an audio track with no automation on volume.
Under it I have a marker track with cycle markers.

I want the automation to boost 3dB for the duration of cycle markers are present.
Really a struggle to do a PLE + macro to get this.
Ideally… this up/dwn in volume is 1 frame. :melting_face:

Other solution might not to target the automation volume (that is cleaner result) but cut audio at cycle markers and apply +3db the crossfade.

Any advice ?

thanks for help,

Maybe the better question is what is the end result you’re after?

First get your loop range to be the duration of your cycle marker. I think that you can double click on the cycle marker and that will/can make the loop range the same as the marker.

Then have your macro set automation “Preview” on, and “Fill” to “To Loop”.

The next thing to figure out is how to boost by 3dB. You could either do it manually (touching the fader or typing in the info field), or I suppose you would have to find a PLE/key command way of boosting the value. Regardless, once that’s done it should be written into the preview buffer and the last item in the macro would be automation “Punch”.

I don’t use a key command to set loop to selected cycle marker so I don’t know if that exists, and I also don’t know about boosting by a specific value since I always use motorized faders, but what I described is the general approach I would take.

Added: I suppose what I described might end up being two commands with the separate last one being “punch”.

What do you mean by this? Did you mean up/dwn by 1dB?

Sorry tell me what is not clear ?

I mean I want the boost in automation curve not to be a sudden jump. 1 or 2 frames curve is better for transition.

Thanks

The automation “Preview” on, and “Fill” to “To Loop” might help. I’ll look at this.
My only thing is I have 1280h of audio so I want this to be automated and not use mouse or faders.

Just wanted to ask why you wanted to achieve this because there might be a better approach. Thanks.

You’r right. I have 1280h of routine audio recorded on diff. people for a research project (mono from one mic)

I need to detect one specific speaker using AI and do treatment to it (one is add 5.4dB)
Most treatment is going to be done in Nuendo so I import CSV markers from AI to nuendo and try to do that 5.4 bosst with automation (or edit)
I have diarization and CSV export from pyhton script sorted and working.
Then I need to be batch rename export portions of those audio without listening to the content (for privacy reason) so nuendo again from what I think.

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Ok, well do you need to just raise the automation level a given amount or could you maybe just export with a target loudness instead?

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Hi,

So I spent some time testing macros I find a way to get there. Unfortunately, I couldn’t change volume levels at specific cycle markers in batch. Instead I cut the sound file at cycle markers to apply gain on the events on a second track :

I’ll describe it here if someone need something similar.

track1 : audio / track2 : audio / track4 : markers
Put sound on track 2, load cycle markers on marker track.

Macro is :

  • Edit - Range to next event
  • Edit - Enlarge range to next event
  • Navigate - Up
  • Edit - Split range
  • Edit - Cut
  • Tool - Object selection tool
  • Navigate - Up
  • Edit - Paste at origin
  • Tool - Range selection tool
  • Navigate down

prerequisite (important):

  • activate range selection follows track selection
  • activate track selection follows event selection
  • Video Follows Editing = ON

Use range tool to select empty part on marker track just before the cycle marker you want to start with.
Run automation.

It will : match range to next cycle marker / move up to audio content / split & cut audio / move to upper empty track / paste event here / go back down to marker track ready for next macro.

With this I’m able to hold the macro down and all audio that is within a cycle range will be cut and moved on the track above. Now… this is not 100% safe as sometimes with macro “relative” orders like “up” “down” can be lost in the process if to fast (?) So it’s best to keep an eye on the process while it’s doing it’s thing.

For me I just select all above sounds and add the gain I want. Also, this technique allows me to use other macro in a second step that extend all events by 1 frame and add fades.

I’m still curious if that could be done with the automation volume.

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