Matching Dorico to SCORE: question

Using MTF-Scorlatti and some of Dorico’s excellent global settings, I’ve gotten very close to matching a hymnal that was created using SCORE. The goal is to be able to replace individual hymns that need correction such that they’re completely indistinguishable from the originals, and without much manual adjustment.

Original SCORE on the left, Dorico on the right, with no manual adjustments beyond the usual nudging of note spacing and lyric syllables:

Overall the differences are so nuanced that I think they’re totally sufficient, and I’m pleased with it. The only hangup is the placement of the ties on the 5th dyad in the tenor and bass. I’ve set Tie endpoint positioning in chords to “All between noteheads,” but the endpoints sit too low relative to the notehead. I can’t seem to find a global setting to correct this. Is there something I’m missing?

I can adjust the ties manually, but I’m really hoping for a simple global setting.

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Looks good! I almost had to squint to see the difference you are concerned about.
Would splitting that dyad into two separate voices make any difference to the vertical position of the tie endpoints?

Thanks. I agree it’s pretty picky, and maybe not worth pursuing. Rapidly approaching a curiosity at this point. But I still think the ties are too tall.

Splitting voices gives the same result, provided I set this:

I Assume that you have explored the settings in Engraving Options > Ties > Vertical Endpoint Positioning > Advanced Options.

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Ah… I haven’t. Thank you.

My old remark about SCORE: I genuinely appreciate how SCORE draws rounded edges for slurs and ties. However, it’s unfortunate that we may never have such a feature in Dorico.

Very nice job!

On the ties, I see that the way SCORE increases thickness of the tie is different from Dorico. The endpoints in Dorico look a bit too small. Perhaps you can increase those by a bit to see if it helps.

Another thing is the key signature: in SCORE, the accidentals are a bit more separated from each other.

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The vertical line of the flat seems thicker too in Score than in Scorlatti. Not sure why.

Very interesting, I would have never spotted this.

Instead my eye was drawn to the font size being slightly bigger in Dorico?

My eye focused on how close the ties come to the staff lines. In Henle and Bärenreiter, you hardly ever see a slur or a tie that touches the lines. Even in old sheet music, this is avoided whenever possible.

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I see a difference in the thickness of the staff lines.

I agree, there are several things throughout I would do differently, but here I just want to imitate!

Hmm, it should be the same. I checked the PDF output in Acrobat and matched it to an absolute point size in Dorico.

Yeah, you are right. I judged it from the preview here in the forum, where indeed the right text is 1 px higher than the left.
But in the original size picture they are about the same.

Seems to be a rounding error when showing the smaller picture :wink:

Overall, with the exception of the tie issue as noted, I think I prefer the look of the Dorico version. Especially where the key signature is concerned, along with line thickness and the shorter down-stem lengths.

I think it’s a rounding error because of the screenshot. I measured to the hundredth of a point!

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Tiny thing: The text on the right is a bit further down than on the left:

Thanks, I’ll find my own way out… :joy:

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Haha it’s ok, I’m fine with that sort of feedback!

Lyric baselines are always by eye anyways, so each hymn will be slightly different. This won’t be a discrepancy in the final document because the reader won’t have the original page to compare to. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Good catch, I will fix that.

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Thank you, this was the setting I needed, in Ties > Vertical Endpoint Positioning > Advanced:

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