Max number of group tracks

Hello,

In N15, with the new folder tracks submix feature, has the maximum amount of allowed group tracks in a project increased? For orchestral templates the current ceiling is easily hit when including various sub mixes, stem exports, multiple libraries with different needs, etc.

I would like to know this as well. Thank you for asking.

Nuendo and Cubase Pro both support a maximum of 256 Group Tracks.

Thank you, not the answer I was hoping for. In the future, I would recommend doubling the group and FX channels limits. In my template to keep my effects isolated to my stems (36), I am out of FX channels, so groups become additional effects channels.

Not complaining either, I like the idea of folder as groups routing. Just need to find the sweet spot allocation

The FX Tracks limit has just been extended to 256.

Oh, thanks for that info. Are you talking about FX return busses, where the previous limit was 64?

Is more than 256 group tracks a framework limitation? If not, why cap it? The majority of users must be working in media with huge templates and 256 groups get eaten up quickly.

Really? I don’t run super large projects but 256 groups is a lot! Can i ask what ghe purpose is of all those groups?

If you want to have close/mid/far control over every library + short/long articulations + percussion in multiple groups and (as I do) create game sfx in the template where each effect needs it’s own group for processing, it quickly runs out.

Er

It seems to be a lot, but if you run big orchestra-based productions, for example, with lots of overdubs a.k.a. “stripes” and about hundred mics for each pass that want to be bussed properly, you might run out of Groups in Nuendo. Here’s a screenshot from a ProTools-session I’m mixing right now - and that’s the raw recording without any fancy mixing stuff implemented yet:

… I know that PT counts busses as individual mono channels, but my 7.1.4 mixing session needs around 1600 of them ATM … 8-/