Meta Normalizer/Clip Effects

Is there a way to have the Meta Normalizer bypass the clip effects? I have 3 clips in a 7 clip montage, 3 I want to be quieter than the other 4 so I added a clip effect gain (-3db). But when I run the Meta Normalizer those clips are louder, as if the Meta Normalizer was compensating the the gain change in the clip effect. I know I can disable the clip effect before running the Meta Normalizer but it’s adding more work to the normalizing process.

Thanks in advance!

Related: Why isn’t the Meta Normalizer preset selection saved with the project file? It’s always the last preset used.

Using WL12.0.51 - Mac

Weirder still: I just now noticed the Master Section effects are not saved with the project file. Like the Meta Normalizer it’s the last preset used.

Surely I must be missing something …

If you are working with projects, you have to enable as shown below in Master Section.

If you are working with Montage, you have to save and recall Master Section Preset.

I have that option checked but it’s not working. But my assumption is that master effects would be saved per project as I will often use different master effects for different projects. Apologies if I’m missing something.

Yes. For projects, there is a close button. Hope you are closing the project as in the clip below.

I have hated the Master Section since the day I started using WaveLab due to how it integrates with Audio Montages and while it’s supposedly gotten a little better in recent updates, I am happy to have developed a workflow that doesn’t require me to use the Master Section at all.

Everything can be done with Clip Effects, occasionally (but not often) Track Effects, and Montage Output Effects.

These are all safely stored with the Audio Montage file.

The Master Section…hard to be certain other than it certainly leads to a lot of user confusion.

I could never get my head around saving and loading the Master Section separately with the Audio Montage. If it’s part of the Audio Montage, it should be automatically saved but it’s more of a “Global” Master Section for the entire program which is useful for the Playback Processing slots in which you want to say the same 100% of the time but it’s not good for much else with the way I like to use WaveLab.

Wow, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

I’m not in the studio at the moment but would you happen to know if the meta-normalizer has an option to ignore gain changes in the clips effects?

And does the preset for the meta-normalizer get saved with the montage? That’s what I would assume but it doesn’t appear to be that way.

Yes, that’s how I close projects to ensure that not only changes in the project file are saved but also in the montage.

May be try saving your key commands, actions, presets

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