Midi filter and merge

VST Live
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I have 2 midi keyboards, one weighted keyboard for piano one with waterfall keybed for Hammond, synths, strings, brass, …
My weighted keyboard has the drawbars. Is there a way that i filter the midi messages of the 2 keyboards and merge before assigning the midi source to the Layer. I need the notes related midi info from the waterfall keyboard going to the Hammond VST as well as the drawbar midi info from the weighted midi keyboard. In the Layer I can only select one midi source.

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Hi @MartinHollreiser,

you could work with two layers and one “Shared Instrument”.

  1. Start VL
  2. A Default Layer_1 is created to Part_1
  3. Select your Instrument for Layer_1
  4. Select MIDI Keyboard_1 for Layer_1
  5. Open Context Menu of Layer_1 (Right-Click) and select “Duplicate Shared”
  6. Select MIDI Keyboard_2 for Layer_2

See you,
Michael.

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Thank you for your quick reply. Can I also filter out all the information from keyboard_2 (e.g. notes, pedal, … , which I do not want to come to the Layer 1 instrument.

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Yes, menu Layer/Layer Controller Map, blocked column.
For notes, you may create a Layer Zone.

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Great, it works.

One more question. Can I convert NRPN Midi messages to midi CC within VST Live.

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Sure, that’s what the aforementioned Layer Controller Map is for.

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Sorry, I have tried but do not get it:
e.g if i want to switch on percussion on hammond VST to 3rd harmonic my controller keyboard sends 4 CCs:
CC#99 2 (Non-RegMSB)
CC#98 21 (Non-RegLSB)
CC#6 0 (DataEntMSB)
CC#38 127 (DataEntLSB)
my VST expects e.g.
CC#68 0 (OFF) or 127 (ON)

how can i implement this mapping in ‘Layer Controler Map’. I need to combine the 4 from the controller into 1 for the VST.

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When does your keyboard send all those controllers? For one switch/function you need just one controller which you can map to the desired MIDI message, or Quick Control?

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Such conversion requires some real scripting as you can find in Halion with Lua. Of course, it will be fantastic to have a scripting language in VL…

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Hi, i have a similar problem. Two keyboards connected to vst live via usb ports. #1 Nord electro 6 with sustain and expression pedals, the #2 is a keyboard midi. I would like that pedal messages from #1 affect to the keyboard #2 layers, even #1 is not sending midi notes, I mean, press pedals from #1, not necessarily their keys, and obtain sustain or expression in #2 keyboard.

I worked all this morning with no success. Thanks for your answers

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If you want to send 2 keyboard inputs to the same Instrument, send the 2nd Layer Instrument to the first by selecting it in the “Shared” menu.
If you need to surpress notes, create a keyzone with just one note (i.e 0, or 127).

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Hi, thanks a lot. It works for me, and I will use it, but is not a definitive or an elegant solution. I hope Steinberg implements the multi midi in/out and improves the midi routing

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Also see All Midi Inputs - #17 by musicullum
We are working on multiple i/o selection.

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