MIDI Import not working on Cubase Artist 14

I exported tracks from Dorico to MIDI and imported that to a new, orchestral Cubase Project. When I copied these tracks to instrument tracks in Cubase, using Halion Sonic 7 voices, most of them don’t play a sound. The notes are there in MIDI editor but no sound comes out when I alter the velocity value in the editor. HOWEVER, if I draw in a new note, that works just fine and plays as usual. So, I gather all is well with the setup except these imported MIDI notes. I also checked to see if disabling the MIDI track before the copy had any effect. It did not. ALSO, these tracks import and work in Artist 13 just fine.
AND, the export process from Dorico apparently adds extra notes in the very low register, C0 or so, which can sometimes play in the voices, such as horns or trombones. I suspect these are some kind of articulation controllers. This needs to be avoided or filtered out. SO MANY BUGS, SO LITTLE TIME TO GET ANY REAL WORK DONE.

Maybe the MIDI Channels are getting changed somewhere along the data path.

How do I check that in Dorico 14?

When I draw in notes, they work, only the imported MIDI doesn’t work and even a little of that does.

Al.

Dorico? No idea, but the manual must have info on MIDI Note Channel Numbers.

Dorico 5 and Cubase 14 which no longer talk to each other as MIDI was the only way, and that’s really awkward considering they are from the same company, so no excuse for that. Yet two tracks worked and the others didn’t. And notes drawn in worked on tracks that otherwise did not work. So it’s not MIDI, all of that is in place and working. The import is missing data input into some area that is addressed by the drawing module and missed by the import module. And Steinberg expects us to just live with this, no way to get the Dorico into Cubase??? Guess so.

I can send the project and the Dorico project as well. They are small. Just in case anyone from Cubase cares.

Just a thought:

You haven’t accidently muted the midi events in Dorico before export?

You can send me the midi file if you like
I’ll have a look.

If those MIDI events were muted in Dorico, would they show up as MIDI in Cubase, which they do, and then just not play? I don’t think that’s how it works. I recall that muted tracks in Dorico don’t go to the MIDI export file at all.

Al.

Sure, can to. But that same file worked just right in Cubase 13, which I also have on that same computer.

Al.

I said muted events, not tracks!

I think (haven’t tested it tho) that muted events (notes) are exported. Which can be done (accidently ?) by a single click in the properties panel in dorico.

I was wrong it seems, Sorry! :disappointed_face:

Thanks much. I was out at a client site yesterday and could not get this email together until this morning. This problem has certainly delayed my deliverable on the film I am scoring. My only workaround is to use Cubase 13, still installed and working. The lesson is, if it works, NEVER UPGRADE.

Now to the attachments. The 1.8 meg .cpr file is from Cubase 13. I re-imported the .mid into it and it works just right. But it does not play any notes when imported into Cubase 14 even though the notes show up in the MIDI editor in the lower panel.

The screen prints are from Cubase 14. The first one shows the first trumpet part where the first two notes, imported, do not play but the last note, the D, does play. That last one was written in with the draw tool. The keyboard on the far left plays just fine, all of the trumpet notes. The last screen print shows the mixing board in Cubase 14. Nothing muted or unusual here I think.

Now, curiously, the first trombone part does play the imported notes normally as did the flute part, not shown.

The MIDI file exported from Dorico 5 is attached last. It was composed on the iPad Dorico, copied to my notebook computer and opened in Dorico 5 from which it was exported. All of that seemed to work just fine. The iPad Dorico does a poor job of exporting, missing note articulations and volume changes. So, I use Dorico 5, pro version to do that function.

Also, Dorico adds an extra note down around C0, which I think is an articulation selection for Halion. But in some instruments, this note actually sounds, and so it is a problem and has to be removed. That might be done in Cubase with the editor in an automated way. Yes???

Steinberg got their money, so I am not expecting this to be fixed but how to people get music out of Dorico and into Cubase 14???

Thanks again,

Al.

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Forum will not let me send midi or cubase files.

Al.

Please only send the midi file for now.
If you can’t upload a .mid file your account here might not yet possess the necessary rights.

I could not send .mid either.

This is the message I got back from the email.

Unfortunately some attachments in your email message to [“incoming+aa8858d62531396963791fdf38b08193@steinberg.discoursemail.com”] (titled Re: [Steinberg Forums] [Cubase] MIDI Import not working on Cubase Artist 14) were rejected.

Details:
Coalition Xing File 2 - Full score - Flow 7: Sorry, the file you are trying to upload is not authorized (authorized extensions: jpg, jpeg, png, gif, heic, heif, dorico, pdf, zip, mp3, mp4, cpr, npr, lua, vstpreset, xml, dmp, crash, mid, ips, midiremote, vlprj, mxl, musicxml).
Coalition Xing File 2 - Full score - Flow 7.midi: Sorry, the file you are trying to upload is not authorized (authorized extensions: jpg, jpeg, png, gif, heic, heif, dorico, pdf, zip, mp3, mp4, cpr, npr, lua, vstpreset, xml, dmp, crash, mid, ips, midiremote, vlprj, mxl, musicxml).

If you believe this is an error, contact a staff member.

Al.

Well, change the suffix from .midi to .mid

I think it always was .mid that’s the extension that Dorico outputs, right?

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