MIDI input problem

Today i opened a Dorico project and tried to continue note input from yesterday using my midi keyboard. Now it is not working. I verified that MIDI notes are coming out of the keyboard using MIDI-OX.

Also of interest:

The MIDI input devices list in the preferences shows “2- Nord Stage 4 MIDI Output” and this selection is checked. There is no entry for MIDI input from the keyboard.

The insert cursor now has an icon above it I don’t recognize and can’t find in the documentation.
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If that doesn’t show, it’s a horizontal rectangle with four “legs” pointing down.

Help please.

. Marc

Is your project activated? I don’t think MIDI input works unless the project is activated for playback.

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As the caret appears to be at the start of a multi-bar rest, my guess is that the four “legs” are actually the rhythmic grid (squashed up because of the multi-bar rest).

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Yes, it’s activated.

Yes, I think that’s right. It is at the rhythmic grid height and if I move the caret away from the start of the multi-bar rest it doesn’t show.

And press alt (or option) and it will appear again, anywhere where the caret is. Alt-t toggles the system track on and off.

OK, thanks. That rhythm grid was a red herring and I understand it now.

Still no MIDI input. I tried all MIDI channels just in case. That’s not it.

Isn’t this a bit weird (from the Preferences), an output port on the input port list and no input from the device?
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Other things I can try are using the UR44 midi input port, trying a different USB MIDI keyboard, reinstalling Dorico as a last resort but I hesitate to reinstall in case this is an actual bug and the technical team wants some info while its happening. (yes, I know it’s probably a noob fumbling around thing…)

Unnecessary.

Do Help>Create Diagnostic Report and upload the zip file here. One of the dev team should be able to provide help.

Hi @hairbear, don’t reinstall, but as Janus said, please post a diagnostics report.
And regarding the ports names, that is always a case of perspective. That what comes out of your NordStage’s MIDI out port, is from Dorico’s point of view input. So in the end quite logical, isn’t it?

Dorico Diagnostics.zip (976.8 KB)
Here’s the diag report. Thanks in advance for taking a look.
. M

Thanks for the data, @hairbear , but I can’t find anything suspicious in there, except that WinRT MIDI is enabled with you, but that as such should also not cause any trouble.
Do you have this problem only with one project or with every? In the Dorico window in the right/bottom corner a little green dot shall blink whenever Dorico receives MIDI. That does not do in your case? How about if you create a new project, same problem?

The problem disappeared. I was checking for the MIDI activity light and saw it blinking. When I looked up at the page, there were notes being entered.

The only thing I did after writing the diagnostic zip file was see if I could enter MIDI notes by keyboard into a track in Nuendo (I could).

Closed Dorico and re-opened it, the problem is back. No MIDI activity light.

I am able to enter notes via MIDI into a newly created project.

Do you have Dorico and Nuendo (or other Midi app) open at the same time? That may explain things. Apps can claim MIDI ports exclusively. Try quitting any other app and then launch Dorico, I strongly believe you will get MIDI input then.

I had Wavelab open along with Dorico when the problem surfaced. If I used MIDI-OX to be sure the Nord was outputting, I closed it afterwards.

And what if you reboot your machine and just launch Dorico, does MIDI input work then?

It does not.

I’ve now connected the Nord via physical MIDI cable to the UR44 (verified working via MIDI-OX). That isn’t seen in Dorico either. A day or two ago I created a new project and MIDI input worked. I cut and pasted from the original project and was able to do some work. That project now doesn’t accept MIDI input.

Could you please post a new diagnostics report please? Thanks

Dorico Diagnostics.zip (1.2 MB)
FYI I’ll be away until tuesday.