Midi timing issue

Cubase
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So probably a common question/issue.

I’m using cb14 on Mac, every midi note I record is lagging and not in time.

I’ve lowered my latency, tried constrain delay compensation and followed a million tutorials, but even on a brand new track with no plugins my recording is off….please someone help save my sanity.

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Hi,

Isn’t it the well-known USB-MIDI Jitter issue?

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Oh, is there any fix?

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Recording from what? How have you tested that your playing isn’t off? Lagging by how much? What are you playing along to? Is it a similar amount every note or variable?

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I’m recording from my midi keyboard along with the metronome. The timing is behind by the same amount every time . I also record directly from a drum machine to test my playing isn’t off.

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What was the answer to this question? And could you confirm you have no plugs in control room.

And what interface do you use….it’s always possible it’s misreporting latency which makes placement of midi and audio incorrect…..you can check this with an audio loopback test and correct if necessary.

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If it’s the same each time, it’s not jitter, it’s just latency.

How far out is it? A single MIDI note on messages takes 1ms to send over MIDI 1.0 transports. Some keyboards are slower.

Pete
Microsoft

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its out by 40 ticks. I do haver plugins in control room, maybe I should try without them. I’m using an RME 802

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Hi,

These plug-ins introduce latency to the whole signal path.

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So I completely removed them and no noticeable difference.

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**Hi j1mcrane, let´s try to figure it out.

Do you hear the lag while playing back the track or also while recording?

Go to Studio tab and select “On-Screen Keyboard” and play with your mac keyboard. If the lag is still there then it is probably not your midi keyboard causing the issue.

When you have plugins in control room then remove them. Just bypassing them won´t remove the latency. You can also disable them if you know how to do it on mac but for now just remove them and let us know if it works? (I know you said you removed them but just to be sure).

What happens when you disconnect the RME and use Mac´s OS driver? Is the lag still there?**

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Thank you so much for taking there time to help.

I have done what you suggested by removing the plugins, issue is still there with exactly the same latency.

Using the Mac keyboard the timing is spot on,

Using the Mac OS driver the timing again is spot on, so it would appear my RME is the issue.

I’m using an aggregate device as my driver, when I switch to just the RME there timing is spot on, so the aggregate device seems to be the issue.

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No probs, good to hear that the lag is gone when switching to RME or MAC OS driver.

If you still want to use the aggregate device as the driver then you might want to check into MAC´s “Audio MIDI Setup”.

I am guessing it is a “clock” issue (RME and other devices have internal clocks not syncing up and MAC then tries to do a “Drift Correction” but that creates the lag in Cubase.

In MAC´s Audio MIDI Setup, you can try to set RME as master source.
Uncheck the “Drift Correction” box for the RME interface and check the “Drift Correction” for all other devices in the aggregate. Check that all the devices have the same samplerate.

If you then open Cubase again, it might work.

All the best,
Allan

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