Minor changes to existing chart

Say I’m creating a new version of an existing chart (just a key change - nothing else changed). I now want to have “version 2” printed on all the parts.

I assume the “right” way would be to add a “version 2” text frame to the relevant page template.

However - in the process of laying out the parts for the previous version, I used overrides to the page layout template - so if I now add a text frame with “Version 2” on the default part set, it will not show on the parts I made changes to - unless I delete those overrides (which will mean I’ll need to redo those overrides on every part just to get this “version 2” note).

Any suggestion as to the best way to achieve this with the least amount of re-laying out parts?

Thanks!

Don’t know if you removed the tokens for Lyricist, Composer or Copyright from your pages?
If they’re still there, you might use one of those in Project info.

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Thanks, it’s a good idea, but I don’t have any unused text frames on this chart

Just add another text field to the Parts Page Template. Since all the parts will say “version 2” you would not need something that uses a token.

Thanks, but this doesn’t address the problems I described regarding the manual overrides

Can you add the “Version 2” as content to an existing frame? (Like a subtitle in the frame with the title.)
Thus only the content of the frame changes and this should work even in parts with page overrides.

I don’t have any unused frames on the template page, so any change I make now will not affect the parts with overrides

I’m not talking about unused frames. I’m talking about adding content to already used ones…

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That’s my plan B… I’d like to be in control of where to put the “version 2” note, and not have it bundled with the main title

Well, there’s no straight forward way currently. As you already noted, things you add to the templates will not make their way into layouts that already have page overrides.

I think this is a lesson we all had to learn: Find ways to avoid page overrides at all costs.

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I came here to say just that, this case perfectly illustrates how overrides can come back to bite you.

You can’t have it all (i.e. keep your existing overrides while at the same time have total control over where the newly added item should be positioned). You’d either have to compromise on the latter, or remove the overrides.

If you’re willing to upload (part of) the project here, there are probably a lot of people willing to help you with achieving your desired results without (or with less) overrides. :slight_smile:

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Thanks - might as well ask for your advice, then -

My main override habit is moving the lower border of the page’s music frame up a little, so - when there are only a few staves on the last page, they will be spread out more, but not spread to the end of the page (the way Dorico does if the percentage for Justification is met).

Without this override, I either get half a page of crowded staves and a ton of empty space below, or a few staves spread way too far from the top of the page to the bottom.

Moving the lower border up solves this issue nicely - the staves are spread nicely, from the top to 70 or 80 percent down the page.

Is there any way to achieve this without overriding the template?

Thanks!

Ha, you’re doing the same thing I did :wink:

Duplicate your standard page template, reduce the frame there and call it “80%”. Then you can apply this to the last page as a page template change, and you can still edit your templates.

I often have templates for 50%, 66% or 75% just to achive exactly what you need :slight_smile:

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great idea, thanks!!

Great idea!!