Mirror Tracks - Have cubase automatically mirror audio/midi when enabled

Hi,

Here is a feature request that I think is very important.

Whenever you have layered elements in the project, it would be so much easier to be able to link the tracks with the layered elements and have Cubase automatically mirror all the event changes that happen on all linked tracks.

Example 1: You have layered guitars (same performance, 1 DI track, going to 2 separate amp sims). You record it on one track. It automatically mirrors on the mirror track. You then edit the track, and it automatically mirrors as well. No need to put them in a group folder (by the way, super inconvenient way to currently have to put tracks in one folder to group them. I saw a video of how Pro Tools does it. That’s really the way it should be IMO).

Example 2: Midi. This is where it really is necessary. For some reason, grouping MIDI tracks does not work the way it should. It groups them at the event level, but not at the level of note edits in the events. Please let me know if this is a bug in my Cubase or if I’m doing something wrong, but it’s always been like this for me.

Often, sounds can be patched together out of many layered samples. Be it drum sounds, orchestral sounds, etc. As of now, the only way to get edits on one track to mirror on other tracks is to create shared copies of the events on all the tracks. The deal-breaker: As soon as you cut/copy and paste events, they turn back into normal events. Any rearranging of the song with the shared copies remaining intact is not possible. You then have to create new shared copies again.

I know someone will say, “just make a MIDI track and send it to multiple instruments.” This is not an option as well, first of all because of different inconveniences it brings, and secondly because different libraries require different fine-tuning, so it ultimately needs to be on different tracks.

This feature would be very useful to anybody that ever has more than one source for the same musical content while composing music.

Cheers

What “inconveniences”? Using a MIDI send to a second Instrument (or MIDI) track is a tried and true way of stacking multiple instruments.
Another option could be to used Shared Copies of MIDI Parts on multiple tracks.
If your two (or more) instruments require different articulations, then I can’t see how how such a function could work unless you put articulations on separate tracks.

There mere fact of having to use a midi track, combined with stack instruments instead of instrument tracks. Then there was an issue with the behavior soloing/muting things, the issue of not having the midi and the instrument in the same place. There’s also the issue of not being able to import stack instruments into other projects. I’m pretty sure other things as well, I don’t remember, it’s been a while, since I really dislike the midi track workflow.

Did you read what I wrote about the shared copies, or am I misunderstanding something? The issue with the shared copies is that you can not manipulate the events without them turning back into normal copies. Also, you have to manipulate multiple tracks when you want to move things around.

I’m not really talking about different articulations, but rather about things like different drum libraries needing to be finetuned because of having velocity layers triggering at different values, or orchestral libraries needing the midi note lengths to be massaged a little differently because of sample start/legato delay, etc. The workflow I imagine is simple. Have the tracks linked while you compose. You constantly hear all your different layers, close to the finish sound. You can record/edit seemslessly, never need to worry about having to copy things over.
At any point, if something needs to be find tuned, you quickly unlink with 1 click, do what you have to do, and go from there.

I mean, it does work with audio, when you link the tracks+use group editing (cumbersome but ok). It works with plugins, it works with pretty much everything. The fact it doesn’t work with midi is a mystery to me.