# Misbehaviour with Komplete Kontrol and Halion

**URL:** <https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984>\
**Category:** Cubase\
**Created:** [October 29, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984 "2021-10-29T12:27:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elias1957](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/elias1957/32/164490_2.png) [@Elias1957](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Elias1957)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/1 "2021-10-29T12:27:55Z")

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Hi,

when pressing play on the Komplete Kontrol S61MK2, the “Joystick” of Halion (Sonic and SE too) jumps to the upper middle position.  
 ![Halion](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/9/4/942c219857fd356cc7a2586410ba666ec741edc6.png)  
The channel monitoring is active  
 ![Monitoring-Mode](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/6/5/652d5b2d87781749aac620c9144054f5e32a1fe7.png)  
Controlling the MID data with MIDI-Monitor gives me this data:  
 ![MIDI-Monitor](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/c/4/c42594b9ec65c4e3d00b8585d3845814b345af17.png)

When pressing play via spacebar or transportpanel the joystick stays in the center position.

I’ve tried this with Logic and the Joystick stays in the center positiion and no MIDI data like with Cubase is generated.

Any help?

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**Author:** ![mr.roos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/mr.roos/32/357_2.png) [@mr.roos](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/mr.roos)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/2 "2021-10-29T22:25:27Z")

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Post this in the VSTi forum. There’s a few guys that can help there. Look for Nico maybe.

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**Author:** ![paka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@paka](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/paka)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/3 "2021-10-30T09:35:28Z")

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Those are MIDI CC Messages 17 and 19 (General Purpose Controller 2 and 4 respectively). The vertical parameter of Halion’s Sphere Control is by default assigned to General Purpose Controller 2.

![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/5/4/544eb141f65ed2b59e5b348aaffa31c55852330c.png)

I don’t use a Komplete Kontrol keyboard, but you might want to check in the MIDI Assignment Editor that you haven’t by accident set the Play button to send CC 17 (unlikely if the message doesn’t show up in Logic). By default this seems to be sent by Knob 4.

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**Author:** ![Elias1957](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/elias1957/32/164490_2.png) [@Elias1957](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Elias1957)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/4 "2021-10-30T18:06:37Z")

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yes, that’s why I’m confused and I think it’s a property or bug (maybe a bug) in Cubase. But disabling the CC works, thanks 😉

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**Author:** ![Nico5](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/nico5/32/92492_2.png) [@Nico5](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nico5)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/5 "2021-10-30T23:10:13Z")

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Maybe check to ensure the Komplete Kontrol DAW port is **excluded** from the All Midi Inputs:

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/2/1/213cff52c9d32d47bdf5c498147c89cfa33dbb88.png)

The Komplete Kontrol DAW port is intended to be used in a Cubase Remote Device (the assignments shown are what I have set up):

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/2/7/2759ee631982319ee3a739dd880233b88cf7cb53.png)

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**Author:** ![Elias1957](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/elias1957/32/164490_2.png) [@Elias1957](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Elias1957)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/6 "2021-11-08T05:42:36Z")

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Ups, maybe this is a good idea! I’ll check it this evening.

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**Author:** ![Elias1957](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/elias1957/32/164490_2.png) [@Elias1957](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Elias1957)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/misbehaviour-with-komplete-kontrol-and-halion/746984/7 "2021-11-09T16:09:04Z")

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Unchecking the Port works. Thanks!

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