MODS - metronome not in sync

checking MODS this week

I just purchased VST Live 2 yesterday and can confirm the mentioned issue. Running VST Live 2 on an M1 MacBook Pro.

Hello @musicullum are you able to reproduce this on your side? Let me know if you need help testing, or running a debug version, I have test flight. Thanks in advance for checking MODS.

Yes, we are looking into it right now, thanks.

We could identify the problem, thanks fo reporting.

We are currently checking when we can issue a new Mods version.

Hello @musicullum , thanks for looking into it. How long do you think it will take to publish the fix?

We hope to have it next week, then it depends on Apple how long until available.

Hi All, looking forward to the update, hopefully it will fix it, thank you all for the help - sorry the technical side is way over my head to keep contributing but I do appreciate you all taking the time to resolve it

Hello @musicullum any updates on this?

Works fine here with the latest mods release, no?

Hello @musicullum , at least in the US, iOS App Store still shows version 1.5.0 from 8 months ago. So have not tried the new mods

Same here, UK

No new version in Germany either.

Same in Switzerland

Sorry for that, we are working hard to get the new version through.

Any indication as to when the updates MODS will be released? Is it a matter of days, weeks, or months? Many thanks. Best, Alexander

Since a couple of hours ago VST Live Mods version 1.5.1 is available on iOS App Store.

I will cross my fingers, update my devices, and test that the metronome and the lyrics are in sync. Will post back soon.

Here are my results:

Does it work now: Yes, with some observations worth mentioning.

How test was performed:

  • Tested on Windows 11 Laptop, VST Live 2.2.90.521 as Host
  • iPhone 8, iPhone 12, iPhone 13 Pro and iPad 5ht Gen VST Live Mods v 1.5.1.160
  • All devices within 2 meters of WiFi router supporting 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz
  • 3 Songs. 1 simple song. 1 song with time signature changes. 1 song with both time signature changes and tempo changes.

Let’s start with the good news:

  • For lyrics and chords we can consider the new version works perfectly. I assume it will work for notes too, although it did not test notes yet.
  • For metronome, it works too, but accuracy is not perfect. I plan to use it as a visual help for the drummer in case he gets lost, knowing where the 1 is will be helpful on some situations, but I will not replace an audible click with it. Even when tempo changed or time signature changed, the metronome kept in sync; which is great. In my case, having the metronome show the time signature is super helpful.
  • Setlist is not supported on my host version (I use v2, not v3 of host)

The observations:

  • You may need to restart the App on the device to get it online again. For example, I opened the App in 3 different devices. Then started the host. During loading all 3 devices switched time signature to 6/8 so I know communication was working. After hitting play on the laptop, two devices started but the one did not, and was in offline mode. A simple restart of the App fix this, there is not need to restart the song, the App will sync to the current measure. Also if you lock the phone or open other Apps, the App may go offline so you will need to restart. It never went offline in the middle of a song, so this is not a bid deal, its easy to get the App back online. In the future a reconnect button may be easier, but its fine.
  • Metronome accuracy: I assume this applies for Chords and Lyrics too, but the discrepancy is so very small that in practice, it will not affect. But for metronome, its noticeable. As I said earlier, I don’t plan to replace audio click with visual metronome, the visual metronome is a backup for when something is going really wrong and it will make it easier to get back to “the one”. When I get to practice with my drummer I will know if the small discrepancy is a problem or if it’s acceptable. I understand it may never be 100% accurate since there are many variables like WiFi congestion, different device CPUs, distance to router, etc. I am just providing my observations. I took 4 pictures at random times. In 2 pictures all metronomes are in sync, but in the other 2 you can see the discrepancy. Here are the pictures:

Above image, older devices a bit behind. Below image, again, older devices a bit behind. Note that these pictures were taken at random, I only took 4 pictures, 2 show the small discrepancy. And to be fair, iPhone 12 was in sync on all pictures.

Next two pictures taken at random shows that devices remain in sync.

My verdict: The App is now usable, especially for Lirycs, Chords, Notes and Metronome as a backup for audio click. Newer and faster iOS devices recommended. Thanks very much for addressing this. It took many months, and I know many complained in different other threads. I just hope that this fix brings back many users like me that were expecting this feature to improve their shows.

Again, thanks.

@Simon_Evans @helgetjelta @NAbraham @CliveJ @Juri_Koecher @alschmid

Hi

Thank you for coming back to me. The metronome on my iPhone is virtually in sync, but the iPad is still a beat in front so I’m presuming its the iPad model/version that is the issue.

Thanks
Simon

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/vst-live-mods-1-5-1-available/1021329/3?u=juri_koecher