mouse zoom

Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Is there a way to turn off zooming with the mouse? I’m on a mac with a magic mouse. Often times when I am trying to select a pitch (Command+click), I accidentally zoom in or out, which is annoying.

No, there’s no way to disable zooming with the mouse, I’m afraid.

Hi Daniel,

My apologies that my first post is a complaint, since in general I feel quite celebratory about using Dorico.

If you were to open a score on a mac and attempt to drag-select any significant amount of material, it might become clear how important it is to find a way to disable zooming with the mouse. It can become incredibly irritating. Thanks.

Thanks for your feedback, Song. Can you be a bit more specific about what problem you’re encountering? I use Dorico on my a Mac all day every day and I don’t have any problems making selections, so I need a bit more information.

Dear Song,
I must say I understand Daniel’s question… We used to “have to” drag-select (lasso) in the early months of Dorico, it was the only productive way to batch select multiple things… But things have changed so much since 1.1 ! I don’t use the marquee select at all, and I spend quite some time on Dorico ! What do you use it for?

Hi Daniel and MarcLarcher,

Thank you for your replies and your request for clarification. Let’s say I want to select two items that are not contiguous. I use the command key and a mouse click to select them. Meanwhile, my score is suddenly much larger or smaller, so that the placement of each item has changed. So I have to zoom in or out again before continuing.

I am sure that it is my lack of knowledge of useful shortcuts, and that for others this might not be an issue. For me, when I am trying to work, it is an annoyance and a distraction. (I am only back on this page because this behavior became too annoying again, and I hoped to discover that changes had been made –– I hadn’t expected responses to my post, and had only offered it as feedback.)

Thanks again for your replies!

Best,

~Song

To select two non-contiguous items:

  1. Click the first item.
  2. Scroll to where the second item is.
  3. Type and hold the Cmd button.
  4. Click the second item.

Some experimentation would indicate that you’re trying to do step 3 before you do step 2. Don’t.

Hi pianoleo,

Thanks for your thoughts. Sometimes the items are close to each other, and no scrolling is necessary. The behavior happens when I go to click on the second item and my finger unintentionally scrolls slightly as I am attempting to click the second (or third or …) item. I think it must specifically be a magic mouse issue, since timschnittke, who began this thread, was also referring to the behavior in relation to a magic mouse. Are you using one?

Thanks :slight_smile:

Nope, I’m afraid I’m not using a Magic Mouse.

Ah. Well, my mouse is getting rather aged. Perhaps a change is in order …

I appreciate your responses, pianoleo, thanks!

Song, consider a Logitech 2.4G wireless button mouse ($15/£15 ish) - I use them on my Mac and Windows PC - works a treat. I think they come in different colours too and the battery (1 x AA) lasts ages. Plug and Play on both platforms.

Brilliant! Thanks for the recommendation, RobF!

~Song

I’m afraid it’s still a regular part of my work routine to correct unwanted zooming because my finger was hovering just slightly over my Magic Mouse, and suddenly everything’s minuscule. I suppose I’m not positioning my fingertip in a precisely optimum way. But it would be a great benefaction to be able to turn off mouse zooming.

Wouldn’t making the Magic Mouse less sensitive be an Apple OS feature rather than a Dorico setting?

Quite. Having the mouse do zooming, or not, is a feature of the OS, not of a notation app.

Here’s an article that offers some suggestions for disabling zoom with the Magic Mouse.

TBH, since I tried the Magic TrackPad, I’ve never wanted to use a mouse again. Apple’s Magic Mouse is really the love-child of a mouse and trackpad (doing gestures with the top surface), and is not as good as either, IMO.

I seem to have spoken without knowing what I was talking about – in my partial defense, because I encountered this problem only with Dorico. However, now I will try to attack the issue elsewhere (though that link describes an OS different from mine; I’ll keep looking). My thanks to @Derrek and @benwiggy for their kindness and forbearance.

Hey Everyone:

Sorry for the thread revival but I’ve dealt with this issue a bunch as well.

This solution works but disables all scrolling period, in any app.

I have this too - it’s annoying. I try to be careful, but the slightest movement on the surface of the mouse while the command key is pressed triggers the behaviour. It would be great to prevent it happening, or to set the behaviour to a key combination.

One user’s opinion — I find the Magic Mouse troublesome in general. My dad uses it, and we had to disable tap-to-click because he was constantly accidentally clicking things. The scrolling threshold is too sensitive, and there is no way to adjust it. He finds it very difficult to double-click something without moving the cursor between clicks.

A trackpad is a much better tool for music copying (and myriad other things).

I’ve put together this hack on my system to turn off mouse scrolling when using Dorico on my Mac. This is for Sequoia, 15.5. This has solved my problems of random zooming behavior when trying to extend selections on the display.

The following is missing some steps regarding enabling security permissions to allow the script to run.

  1. Open the Application “Script Editor” and enter the following:

tell application “System Settings”
activate
delay 1
set acc to get pane id “com.apple.Accessibility-Settings.extension”
reveal acc
delay 1
set pc to get anchor “AX_MOUSE_OPTIONS” of acc
reveal pc
end tell

Save that as an application somewhere on your disk. Note that the File Format is “Application”. I named mine “Set_mouse_options.app”.

When you run that app, it should open system settings, get to a set of settings, and open the following dialog.

Click the “Use mouse for scrolling” off and then click on “OK”. You can close the system settings window at this point.

When you are done using Dorico and want to resume using mouse scrolling, run the app again and turn mouse scrolling back on.

I’ve added a shortcut to make the above more convenient. Open the Shortcuts application,
create a new shortcut that looks like this:

This should be in your menubar.

Hope this proves useful to others.