Moving systems

Dorico
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I need help moving a system to page 1 of a score. Even though this topic has been discussed, I cannot find the reason why the system at the top of page 2 won’t go into the space at the bottom of page 1.

Someone To Watch Over Me Hns..dorico (1.8 MB)

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Hi @jk3horn,

  • in bar 1 select the frame break, and in the properties panel uncheck Wait for next frame break

  • in bar 16 select the frame break (this caused the 3rd system to go on page 2), and in the properties panel set it as system break

  • to eliminate the system space override for the second system in Engrave mode choose menu Engrave>Staff Spacing>Reset layout

  • I find also generally very strange that you made all the notes size to 85% with a property override… Would not be better to decrease the space size in layout options, instead?

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Because there is an explicit frame break at page 2. A frame break is actually a page break.

By the way you have inserted a lot of system and frame breaks and you did a lot of manual staff and note spacing. Please don’t do that, Dorico’s default note and staff spacing is pretty fine.

I removed all manual stuff in Engrave Mode (note spacing / staff spacing and the breaks)

Someone To Watch Over Me Hns_Edit.dorico (1.9 MB)

Edit: And with slightly reduced page margins (10 mm /0.4 in top and bottom and 12.7 mm / 0.5 in left and right) and increased inter-staff gap it looks still better (in my opinion)

Someone To Watch Over Me Hns_Edit_2.dorico (1.9 MB)

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Thank you very much for you help. In order to get the whole score on 2 pages, should I move measures to previous system? I know it will squeeze each bar but I want a 2 page score.

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Moving systems is the “ultima ratio” if the global settings don’t work.

To fit the music on two pages I set the rastral size to 6 in Layout Options / Page Setup and the default space for crotchet/ quarter note to 3 in Layout Options / Note Spacing to get the music evenly spaced. There are no manual adjustments at all!

Someone To Watch Over Me Hns_Edit_3.dorico (1.9 MB)

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Thanks for your help. You have shown me some very helpful information that I never knew about.

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Wonderful!!! Thanks. I appreciate you help and teaching me about Layout Options to fix spacing instead of manual adjustments.

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You’re welcome. I just noticed the 85% scaling. This is not necessary. My proposed settings in Edit_3 look rather well even with 100% note size. Select all, filter for Notes and Chords and switch off the scaling property.

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Yes. I did that as per the suggestion from Christian_R.

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Jeffry,
in addition to Christian’s and Stefan’s advices: if you like the look of smaller noteheads, select all your music, Filter by Notes and Chords and (via the right click menu) choose Notehead → Default Noteheads.
This turns the noteheads into a slightly smaller version.
Dorico’s own default are the “Larger Noteheads”.

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That’s is a wonderful technique. Thank you.