Multi-out issue with Shared Layers

VST Live
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Hi all!

I’m still confused with the way I should deal with VSTi sound assignation when using Parts.

Though my Midi Songs have multiple Parts for Flexloop, they use the same Layers from the start to the end. After importing tracks from Cubase, I have to search for the better Halion sound for each, and there come the issues:

  1. A Layer’s editor is only displayed while playing the Part it belongs to. When reaching the next Part, the Layer’s editor is closed, so it is impossible to choose or edit a VST sound, though that Layer is still active, played by Tracks and audible.
  2. I thought that sharing Layers over all Parts of the Song would be the solution. It was until I realized that VSTi Multi Out is bugged when using Shared Layers. After a Part change, all voices are routed to the Main Out and the busses are ignored. Thus, I don’t need to share the Layers inside a Song, I just need to be able to edit the playing VSTi all Song long.

The only feature that would solve my problem would keep the Layer VSTi editor open even after Parts change.

Does someone have another tip?

Thanks a lot.

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@Jihem

I just tried to repro, but everything seems to be working as expected:

  • New song, two parts
  • Layer 1 in Part 1 contains a HALion Sonic
  • HALion Sonic has two patches active, routed to HS Out 2 and 5.
  • HS Outs 2 and 5 are routed to Song Groups 1 and 2.
  • This Layer is shared for Part 2.
  • Output assignments do not change when Part 2 becomes active.

Am I overlooking something here? Which version of VL are you using and on which OS?

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Thank you for your test.

VST Live 3.0.33 on Windows 11 Pro

I did the same as you except for Groups instead of Song Groups, and I made 3 Parts. Please watch this video:

Nothing wrong until you stop the Song and start it again from the beginning or from any location in a previous Part. Halion shows this alert:

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The problem persists until you switch to another Song and come back. It’s unrelated to Flexloop, contrary to what I thought.

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@Jihem

I checked again and can now confirm the issue. It becomes more obvious in HALion with all those red warning signs … :grin:

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a) cannot see video (MS stuff)

b) is option Part/Restore Part Mixer active?

c) tried both with 2 Groups and 2 Song Groups, but no such problems.

Not here.

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Hi @musicullum you can watch my Video on YouTube

And here’s an Archive of the Project:

Shared Layers Multi Out bug.zip (904.3 KB)

As you can see in this picture, the busses are not reflected in the Out list:

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Yes, sorry, meanwhile we could reproduce it, thanks!

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