I tried the whole shift + down thing… But this way of doing things definitely does not match how I work. If I try to select multiple staves with the arrow and then add the note input it doesn’t spread my selection to multiple staves. You must do it with a clunky shift + down option which forces scenarios where this is not functional at all.
Aka you’ve got a couple pianos playing different parts and you only want to cross the treble together. Shift + down forces the basses to be selected and you can’t realistically use this.
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the caret to cross the staves while using the mouse to orient my selections. Shift double click? Nope that just moves the caret.
Let me be clear I love the feature, I just cannot seem to get the current implementation to function within my workflow nicely.
Yeah, I get that. I’m just trying to find a quicker Methodology and it seems great if I was doing an Orchestra or something of the sort but I’m trying to make something for my Church which has 2 Pianos and often random combinations of electric guitar, acoustic guitar and Bass Guitar.
I guess I don’t get why I can’t just select the staves I want to use and then click the input notes button have it input into the staves selected.
What I’m doing is far slower than what is shown but I find the process of moving from mouse to keyboard really annoying to be honest. Currently I’m working on a laptop with a broken touchpad and using a Bluetooth trackball mouse.
So migrating from one mode to the other isn’t seamless. In fact it is like the extremes on anti-ergonomics. So far I’ve got a pretty good mouse based workflow and the lack of the working trackpad messes with the viability of a lot of the other workflows, it prevents me from just using my left hand to do that stuff because my right hand is needed if the mouse is.
I really don’t use the keyboard for much other than S for slur, CTRL, ALT or Shift modifiers is about it. You might think well shift is right near the arrows and ctrl/alt. Not on the left side of the keyboard where the left hand goes. If I need anything else I do J and start typing, over 90% of that time its probably scyloc for “set the cycle locators from selection”.
But the reality is all this won’t matter in a couple of days in terms of my computer needing replaced as I ordered a new M5 Macbook Pro
How does it know now? The functionality already exists in a manner of speaking with being able to select staves and explode a cut chord. Isn’t that essentially what this feature does but it does it live. I know a big portion of this is the different staves and maybe the program works in a way I’m not understanding but when I tried to input notes for all my instruments at the same time it didn’t seem to work as I expected and I ended up with a string along of chords that sounded horrible or it advancing a note at a time.
It doesn’t help that the extension cable shorted this morning and nearly started on fire so I can’t really SEE what Dorico is even doing. I just come back to a bunch of garbage and having to fix it because the alternative cabling is a stretch with no turning capability.
I just know my workflow is usually clicking the buttons in a certain order or I’m fighting the program instead of it working correctly so I go with that. That isn’t what works with my Midi keyboard though I’m still figuring that out as click in seems to be what yields me best results. Otherwise the whole not having a mouse means my mouse pressing buttons on the keyboard and I’m having to fix that.
I can’t wait until the computer I’m using doesn’t cause me issues.
I do agree that it would feel more intuitive for me, though I’m sure not for everyone, to be able to select multiple staves and enter note input for that collection of staves with the enter key. Though I’ve been using the shift-arrow method for years now, I often find myself selecting multiple staves and pressing enter only to be reminded that I still have to do the shift-arrow thing. I think that might be because other actions like adding dynamics or articulations across staves requires selecting notes on those staves.
EDIT: Oh, and I still REALLY wish we could make multistaff selections and advance across all staves at once to add articulations en masse. For homophonic passages it would be such a time saver, and it would feel at home with other multistaff functionality.
Is it too hard? No. But it feels clunky. If I can advance the carat across staves, why not also the selection? And if I’m working in block homophony, it would be so simple to select multiple staves and be able to enter articulations, dynamics, playing techniques, etc. all at once, rather than doing it on one staff, having to copy/paste special, then having to reselect, filter dynamics and copy those, then having to filter playing techniques and copy those, etc. I know not everyone works this way, but I suspect I’m not the only one who might benefit.
Thanks for understanding what I mean Ijm_335. I do really like the feature but that shift down or up just does not feel fluid in my workflow.
Like you I select the staves then hit the input key and it swaps to one stave. For the longest time I couldn’t figure out how people were even doing multi-stave input.
I saw it was possible but it never worked for me. It took me going out of my way to figure out how it worked before it actually decided to work.
I don’t think it should take 20-30 minutes to figure out how it worked. I’m not lying either I asked my music teacher to try and see if they could figure it out too!
I don’t think it should take 20-30 minutes to figure out how it worked. I’m not lying either I asked my music teacher to try and see if they could figure it out too! 