Multiple accents in tied series of rolls

I have a series of roll values in a snare drum quartet (m. 43-46). I want specific accents at specific points within this extended roll and want all the notes tied. Every time I tie them, the accent goes away. Please assist.

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In this case, I think you have to use a Playing technique instead, or use slurs instead of ties.

Jesper

Here I changed the top staff in m 43-44 to a Playing technique.

Jesper

Four by Four.dorico (2.6 MB)

Slurs look different, so I’d rather not do that, but what you did look perfect. Please explain how you changed that to “Playing technique” specifically. This use and process is new to me.

You can download my file and see. I created a new playing technique of type Glyph. Then, in the playing technique editor (click the pencil), I deleted the text with the trash can, selected the music font you use, and found the accent. Finally, removed the normal accents and added the new playing technique instead.

Jesper

Thank you. Obviously this works, so I’ll go with it.

But WHY is a workaround needed for something as common as this in percussion music?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jesper

Serious question: What is the sonic difference between tied and untied notes when playing a continuous tremolo?

I think it depends on whether it’s open rolls, like in a drum corps, or closed/buzz rolls in an orchestra. For the open roll, no real difference. For the closed, you probably put a slight accent if there is no tie.

Jesper

That’s exactly my point. If the note has an accent, the tie is actually not necessary.

In an orchestral setting, an untied roll would end slightly before the next note, without any sort of tap release. In a rudimental setting, performance of an untied roll would typically be a tap release one sixteenth-note early.

Yeah, for the open roll, I meant, even without an accent, you probably make a small accent anyway, and possibly a short break before on the untied ones.

Jesper

Thanks for your help!

We percussionists (in my case, former) need to stick together. Pun intended.

Jesper