Multiple Time Signatures with Different Barlines

Items like bar lines, tempo marks, rehearsal marks, etc, belong to the complete system, not to a single staff. Notes, rests, dynamics, etc, only belong to one staff.

You can extend the caret across staves with Shift + the up and down arrows. This is useful for entering notes on several staves at once, as well as creating a time signature on several staves.

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This bit refers to the ability to press Shift-Up arrow and Shift-Down arrow when the caret is active to extend it across multiple staves. As this isn’t always what you want to do, and describing this in detail in this step for every task about inputting notations might be even more detour-esque, this sentence gives you a hint and then there is a related link at the bottom, where how to extend the caret is described in detail.

If the caret is extended across e.g. four staves in an orchestral score and you input a time signature with Alt-Return, that time signature is input locally on those 4 staves. The same is true for playing techniques like pizzicato, making it a useful additional bit of input functionality.

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Many thanks for linking to this tutorial, from a newbie who had been daunted by cleaning up an .xml import that had polymeters. What a great forum.

I hope this is the right place for this question:
How can I remove meter changes in selected staffs?

The context is this:
I am working on a score where a group of players (let us call it group 1) are playing in a different meter than the rest of the orchestra (group 2). I have already input group 2’s notes and meter changes. When inserting group 1’s meter changes, they change back whenever there is a meter change.

This is the problem. In bar 72 there is a 3/4 bar meter change, and it interrupts the new meter in group 1

(The reason the time signatures are so complicated is that this actually is polytempo music, notated by means of different meters and complicated tuplets. But the question here is solely concerning getting rid of the meter changes in the upper staffs.)

Thanks in advance!

“Global” time signatures (ones input by pressing Return to close the popover) apply to all staves, and if you input a global time signature after inputting a local one, the global one re-takes precedence.

You probably need to input the 3/4 as local to each of the other staves - if you show the caret and extend it so it covers all the staves that need 3/4 and then input a local time signature by pressing Alt-Return to close the popover, that adds it to all those staves at once.

Thanks! This works.
The problem is that because of the complexity of the piece, inputting a local time signature to the rest of the staves (56) with the extended caret takes 7-8 minutes (condensing is off). And there are 10 time signature changes to change… I guess I did it in the wrong order from the start.

Originally I was actually not expecting that Dorico could manage the poylytempo notation, and I was prepared for working with it graphically. But then I understood that it is actually possible to do it in the program.

If you add the global time signatures first, then add the local time signatures, that might work better. Or, re-input your local time signatures again at the position of the global time signature, and hide it if necessary.

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Thank you so much! 30 seconds now — huge difference. Because of you, my day now has one hour more! :slight_smile:


Apropos to this, I have a score in 6/8 with one instrument in 5/4. At some point all the instruments have bar repeats. Instead of writing it all out I simply want to put repeat signs for the entire score in the 2 spots where the time signatures converge, obviously 3 bars of 5/4 and 5 bars of 6/8. But every time I try this Dorico changes the 5/4 staff to 6/8 going forward. Tried inputting 5/4 on that staff again after the leftmost repeat sign, no luck. Any thoughts on this?
Also second problem, not as crucial: when you have multiple time signatures I notice Dorico cannot playback bar repeats properly in each staff. Correct? or am I missing something?
Thank you all,

When you create the start repeat barline, hold Alt when you either confirm the popover or click the barline in the panel, and it will be created only on one staff.

Brilliant! That works Daniel. But what about the playback of bar repeats? Is this not functional when you have multiple time signatures in different players?

No, I’m afraid not at the moment.

OK thank you.