It can be found at Dropbox - Chanson Full score 2017-07-27-015505.pdf - Simplify your life as the forum does not allow me to post the .pdf directly.
This is ‘Chanson’, the third of the ‘Scènes et Mélodies’ by Martial Caillebotte (1853-1910) and is the first truly complicated project I have done with Dorico. The other nine songs in the cycle will follow this one: either being done in Dorico from scratch or by import via XML from the files in Finale I have already put together.
It was the odd beaming in this particular piece that did me in on doing this project on Finale. Things were going just fine, but when I got to beaming across barlines and rests, Finale said “Uncle!”. I triple-dog-dared it to beam that stuff natively, but to no avail.
I have hacked on this thing for a week (per my many posts to this forum), and I’m sure I will have many more questions to ask Daniel and everyone else. That being said, I am quite proud of myself at this moment, having sent off the .pdf of the final result to my client.
This is the second project I have done on music notation software other than Finale, but if there is such a thing as ‘baptism by fire’ via artsong with music notation software, this is it. And by no means is this the most complicated of these songs!
Times New Roman is horrible, but my client’s dissertation committee seems to like it, alas. My client agrees with me re the font, happily. I would have used either Palatino or the Academico font (which really is beautiful). Such is life.
The one disappointment I’ve had with this project and Dorico is more staff spacing adjusting than I expected. Of course, the software is still in its infancy. I was surprised, however, time and time again at how the system did so much right from the off. So little cosmetic adjustments in relative terms required…
The following are things good and will-be-good I found:
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In page layout options, dimensions for ‘letter’-size are not specified while those for concert size, etc. are. This is true for all commonly-used page sizes, but I would love to see specs for all page sizes included in the drop-down menu.
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outsideofmargin26July2017.png - How does one make Dorico keep everything within the margins at all times, even if it means systems overflowing to following pages and adding to the document length in terms of pages?
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How to Work with Text Styles | Engrave Mode in Dorico - YouTube talks about changing font styles in Dorico - very helpful! Here’s hoping there will be a way of using SMuFL glyphs in such a way one does not need to copy-paste from the external SMuFL website. Not a priority, I know…no worries, there.
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Antony Hughes’ voice is wonderful in the tutorial videos…
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Instead of a Lyrics ‘popover’, a Lyrics ‘popUNDER’ might be more intuitive (at least to this old Finale guy), the input field under the notes instead of over. Good reasons for doing the popover input fields, I know…
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Beam-angle adjustments are intuitive with Dorico as they are with Finale. Dorico, though, makes them slightly easier to get to (no need to click the Beam Angle tool button).
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So glad Avid sacked the old Sibelius crew… This left Daniel and company free to go back to square-one and make an even-better music notation program!
Just think what might have happened had Avid done better: no SMuFL, no Bravura, no Dorico…
- What made me switch this entire project to Dorico? Being able to natively do cross-barline beaming per my MS… (Think of a chorus of angels singing “Aaaah”.)
Being able to beam over rests was (in my case, quaver-rests) was huge as well.
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I would like to be able to have windows for everything (Format systems, etc.) separate from the window in which my music is being worked on (a la Finale). I am using a .pdf score and I am constricted by the Dorico window taking up more than half the screen.
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Is there a way of saving preferences as Finale-style ‘Libraries’ for use in future projects? I have two clients who have specific requirements, and I would love to have ‘Libraries’ for each.
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When in Engrave mode, I find myself needing to switch back and forth between it and Write often. When I switch from one to the other, the system does not always remember where in the score I am, and I end up having to take time in getting back where I was.
I found a workaround: highlighting an element of the score - any element - fixes this issue. The system latches onto the highlighted element, taking me to its location in the mode to which I am switching.
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When I adjust slurs, I see five point-handles with which to do that work. What about putting in between each existing point-handle another point-handle, giving us nine to work with? (overkill, perhaps?)
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Not too many slur adjustments and so much less cosmetic work than this would have taken with Finale…
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I thought with Write and Engrave there would be such segregation of cosmetic functionality and other functionality it would be a bit clunky to go from one mode to the other. I have found this to not be the case.
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Properties > Articulations of duration > Placement: When I specify multiple notes with a mix of fixed notehead and stem articulation placements, have the drop-down menu indicate “…”, and press the button for the drop-down menu, nothing happens. I have to turn off the override button and back on again for the system to turn everything to notehead-placement. Once that happens, I can operate the dialog box as normal.
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Working with Engrave Mode, it feels as close to working with paper and movable print as I have been able to get with any notation software.
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Pedal markings: How can I have the initial pedal marking and the funky asterisk at differing horizontal positions?
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I use the ‘T’ key to create ties. I want to be able to use that key to break them back into their former constituent parts.
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Is it possible yet to move rests up and down in Engrave Mode? I was just able to move an articulation about.
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My layman’s eyes wonder if Dorico should ever need its own graphics editor when perfectly-good editors are out there, open-source and otherwise.
re: Steinberg Forums -
When I first heard of the five modes, again I thought we were in for a clunky time. But what we get in return for the separate modes is really remarkable. I’m going through my project and making cosmetic adjustments, but I feel the adjustments I’m having to make (not as many as one might think) are because of the complexity of the music and not the software getting in the way.
There are projects in Finale I take more time with cosmetic work than I do with data-entry and proofing, sometimes.
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I greatly miss being able to move measures from one system or another with ctrl+up/down (Finale). Negotiating putting down system breaks is still clumsy for me, though I’m sure easier ways of getting this done will come up down the road in future versions.
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Dealing with staff spacing is tricky like it is with Finale, but not nearly as tricky as far as I can tell.
I find for having staff names display in only the first staff, it is not enough to leave the ‘abbreviated’, etc. lines blank in Setup Mode > Players > [edit name] > Edit Instrument Names. I have to put a solitary space in each of the Sing. St. Name, Pl. FName, and PSName input fields.
Many thanks, Daniel and anyone else who wants to give their thoughts on all this…