N14: ALT+Z is no longer working correctly for undoing plugin changes

In Nuendo 13 and before, I could open a 3rd party plugin, turn a knob, press ALT+Z and it would undo that knob turn. Now, ALT+Z just removes the plugin from the channel.

Anyone else experiencing this?

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Yes, same here… that’s weird. Actually the mixer undo/redo doesn’t work at all on my system (I can’t even undo a fader change for example). Is there a setting we are missing or is that a bug?

Strange, working here.

Very strange behavoir: I re-installed Nuendo 14 and removed my preferences so that I have a clean install. At first it still didn’t work but then I inserted one of the new plugins (Auto-Filter) and then it started working. BUT the history is laggy, it always takes 1-2 seconds for the changes to appear in the history, no matter if it’s a fader movement or a VST-Plugin value (if I click ALT-Z in the meantime before the new change appears in the history, it undos the last stored action). I tried it with Nuendo 13 again and there the mixer-history changes instantly without any latency.

working here in N14 /Win’11, although approx 1 second between movement and appearing in history

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I’ll test when I get back to my PC - Maybe I was just pressing alt+z too fast after making the change?

Will report back

Same combination here (N14/newest Win11). Additionally when changing a second parameter before the first one appears in mixer history, the first paramter doesn’t appear. For example when I move the fader and quickly after that the panner, only the panner appears in the mixer history.

Yeah, confirmed if you wait a second or two before pressing ALT+Z, it works. This is def a bug because it wasn’t like this in previous Nuendo versions.

And yes, if you do multiple adjustments quickly, ALT+Z will undo both of them, not just the last one.

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Okay, “good” to hear it’s the same problem on your system, I thought maybe it could be a performance issue on my system, but then that really points to a bug. I hope the Steinberg team is going to look into this problem :slight_smile:

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Update December 5th, the MixConsole’s undo history is still a problem.

  1. I noticed that undo wasn’t undoing stuff in the MixConsole and I’ve had problems with this previously (been a user since Cubase 11 so I’m no stranger to the quirks of MixConsole undo), so I specifically used the Undo button in the top-left of the MixConsole. It undid a track move I did in the MixConsole window, but I had to click a few times to do so, and it was only after doing that that I realised it had also undone a bunch of changes moving regions around in the project window.
  2. Tried the above again, this time literally going into “MixConsole > Edit > Undo”. Even there the Undo changes were labelled as moving items around in the project window.
  3. Googled for solutions/workarounds, found some suggestions about closing and re-opening the MixConsole to reset the Undo history, and failing that saving and reopening the project to reset both Undo histories.
  4. Tried both closing/reopening the MixConsole and closing/reopening the project, no change. In fact, when I reopened the project as soon as I did I dragged a fader to see if it would come up in the MixConsole undo before clicking anything else. It didn’t. The Undo button is still greyed out as though no change was made. So now as far as I can tell MixConsole undo doesn’t appear to be tracking changes at all.

Please. Fix this Steinberg.

I wonder if this in Windows or Mac.