New procedures for typing notes and values. Small problem

Dorico
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Hi, I have noticed, since version 5, a change in note value entry that did not exist in version 4.
If I double-click the value of a note, a value point will be added to that note.
This procedure, like others, slows me down a lot when typing notes and their value.
Is it possible to disable these changes and how?

Thank you

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Actually, double tapping the key for a value is a great time-saving feature for most of us :rofl:
But you’re not the only one who asks for this option. And I didn’t know it also worked when double clicking the left panel (it’s what I understand from your post) — I thought it was specific to the keyboard.
[Edit] After all, you wrote “double click a value”, when you meant double-typed :wink:

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No, no, only in the numeric keypad.

It is very annoying to type notes and find that, because of these changes, there are so many errors that I am forced to delete even several keystrokes and start over.

The fact is that since version 3.5 I have always reconfigured the keyboard so that each key had a specific task.
Then again, I type on the keyboard without looking at it, the keyboard, so I only become aware of a problem after many keystrokes and have to start over.
Annoying as hell and basically useless to me.

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What’s the scenario in which you’re rapidly pressing a number twice?

I’m not questioning the validity of what you’re saying, just curious.

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Insert mode is very useful for this kind of correction. You don’t have to redo all the notes you got right.

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As we get older, some of us start to develop a minor tremor in our hands that can lead to inadvertently hitting a number key (or any key, for that matter) twice.

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Unfortunately yes, because I don’t look at the computer keyboard while I type the keys, so when I notice the mistakes, it’s too late and I have to repeat even 10 keystrokes…
If a solution is not found or there is none at all, I will be forced to use version 4 of Dorico.

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I’m not sure but it seems like you don’t understand: When I have entered one or more wrong note values I just hit I, select the note(s) and change them to the right length. If I accidentally entered a whole string of dotted quarters that should have been quarters (or eighths, or whatever), they can all be fixed in one keystroke. If I put in just one wrong note and the following six bars are all on the wrong beats, that also takes only one keystroke to fix.

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So I select where I see the error and enter “I”?
Thanks, but the point is that I wish there was a command that would allow you to choose whether to accept or exclude any changes that have been programmed from version 4 to version 5, as well as any choices you can make.

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I think Mark has perfectly understood what you were asking for. He simply offered a workaround to correct all those mistakes in one step in the meantime (development takes time and we don’t know if your request will ever be fulfilled…) My 2c.

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It’s a really good new feature in Dorico 5. One of the problems with software development is that you introduce new features and there will always be a subset of people that neither want nor like them.

Consequently, what is needed is to make this a feature request to have an option to disable or enable the feature.

The only problem with this is that by this type of feature creep you end up with many many on/off options for every little thing - and then people complain about that as well, and the default is never what you want!

This new feature is documented in the Version History.

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Exactly. And given this is a fundamental part of user input, why not disables on basically everything? Like a disable for the icons - I don’t like them and want more screen space, etc.

If you accidentally double hit a duration, all it takes is another hit to correct it.

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That was my point - disable one, disable all. Pretty soon you end up with a Boeing 747 cockpit.

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Indeed Engraving Options is already that level of complexity!

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Riprendo questo post per farvi vedere di cosa parlavo e che tutt’ora mi ritrovo.
In effetti mi rallenta moltissimo la trascrizione e devo continuamente fermarmi per correggere.
Ho pensato sia meglio se vi faccio vedere di che si tratta, con un video, piuttosto che dirlo soltanto, magari così, qualcuno non mi darà del “vecchio con le mani che tremano per nulla”…

Naturalmente questi sono solo alcuni…

Cordiali saluti…

I resume this post to show you what I was talking about and that I still find myself.
In fact, it slows down my transcription a lot and I constantly have to stop to correct.
I thought it’s better if I show you what it’s about, with a video, rather than just saying it, maybe so, someone won’t call me an “old man with hands that shake for nothing”…

Of course these are just a few…

Best regards…

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Saluti –

  1. I can see in your video that you are trying to enter rests by rhythmic value. You don’t have to enter them at all in Dorico. Where there are rests, just move the cursor with Space or right arrow to the beat for the next note, and the rests will be written correctly automatically.
  2. When you have, as in this example, two Horn parts playing the same rhythm, you don’t need to re-enter all those rhythms! You can just copy the notes of Horn 1 to Horn 2 and use lock duration to repitch the whole line. (Or if you have a midi keyboard you can even enter both parts at once by extending the caret to encompass both staves.)

(The links are to manual pages in Italian.)

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Hi, thanks for the reply, but I have the impression that you haven’t understood the problem: having inserted those variations in writing, it slows down my typing of the notes a lot, since I have to constantly stop, delete and correct.
The post was written to highlight these issues, nothing else.
Regarding point 1, I’m not trying to insert rests! I’m simply transcribing part of an instrument.
2. I’m quicker to write the notes than to copy them from another instrument, also because, I don’t know if you understood it, we’re dealing with the transcription from an instrumental part of a single instrument and I don’t have the material time to listen copy and paste from other tools, if not in the final check phase, if anything.

Best regards