New Segment Detecion editing feature applied on all lanes?

Hi! I’m having a bit of a trouble with the new feature (Event Volume Curves with Automatic Audio Segment Detection) that makes it hard to edit a track that has multiple lanes. If I edit the volume of one segment, lets say of a vocal, every take in that track is affected by it, instead of only the active lane. Is there an option to change that? If so, where?

Best greetings!
Arnold

Hi and welcome to the forum,

Could you please attach a screenshot?

Hi! Sure.


In this picture i wanted to edit a bassdrum-hit (take “bd_17”) but every other take/lane in the background ("bd_08, etc.) also got edited. But i only wanted to edit the loudness of the active take “bd_17”, not all of them.
Is there an option or preference that i havent seen?
Thanks!

Hi,

Could you please make a video? I’m wondering, why is the Audio Event selected, how did you come to this state?

by using the range tool and pressing STRG + CTRL (the new feature in 14.0.20).
Here is my video: h ttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1ekiATlmwvqEOIiRduc7fPKOJYdd11sdU/view?usp=sharing

edit: it doesnt let me paste links here, so you have to remove the space in the “h ttps” to make it work…

I am curious, let me try pasting links:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ekiATlmwvqEOIiRduc7fPKOJYdd11sdU/view?usp=sharing

It worked for me. Is this a permission thing, or didn’t you use the forum’s link feature?

Hi,

On the video, I can see, you click on the Audio Event, so you make the Range Selection. Don’t click. While holding Ctrl/Cmd+Shift use the Volume control.

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ah, that works! Great, thank you!
After reading through the Preferences and the manual, it seems there is no such option to “not select every lane while clicking on an event”. But what you said is a good workaround. Thanks a lot!

What’s still missing is an indicator of how much dB i’m boosting or cutting. Just like when using the Draw-mode, it shows how much i’m boosting like here:


Would be nice to see that in the new segment detection too!

Although probably intended to be used as a ‘visual’ aid when adjusting volumes, I’ll definitely add a +1 to the idea of displaying the difference/relative dB readout (tooltip).

(could do with its own ‘feature request’ topic.!)

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Hi,

I think it’s more oriented to audible results, not visual, where you visually control numbers, instead of listening to the result. :wink:

Same as it is for the Range Selection. I agree; it would be nice to add that.

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Yes of course, you’re right - I meant ‘visual aid’ to adjust (relative size of ‘blobs’), alongside making changes to actual volume desired… :wink:

(still not had chance to update yet.!)

Hi,

Please, make a new thread with the clear feature-request description. Thank you.

This original thread was about writing the Volume over all lanes, not about the tooltip.

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IMHO it is working as it should. If you click an event, it is fully selected. The parts on the lane are just sub-items of it, thus all are selected.
@Martin.Jirsak 's explanation is not a workaround, but how it works.

I dont think so. Thats why an option to turn it off in the preferences would be cool.
Imagine you recorded a drummer which plays 10 takes of the song. And you want to raise the volume of one specific bass drum hit because he played it too soft. Suddenly every kick hit at that time in every lane gets raised. Thats pointless. Same with differenct vocal takes. Just because something is too loud/quiet in a specific take doesnt mean every take should be edited with it.
On the other hand, cutting and comping drums works better if automatically every lane is edited. Different use cases…
And for me, its a workaround, obviously.