HI,
I am trying to use an auto panning plugin, Brauer Motion, which simply does not work in Nuendo 15. Using Brauer Motion latest version (Waves Mercury 16.0.4) and Nuendo 15.0.21.252.
The track is a Mono track, I select the plugin “mono/stereo” or even “stereo” and it simply changes the volume and it sounds completely in Mono.
I then try to use the Steinberg AutoPan plugin. Same thing happens: Output simply goes up and down in volume, but does not move left to right in the Stereo field.
Control Room is ON, Main mix is my Output 1-2, Main Mix is set to Stereo.
Funny thing is, if I Pan the mono signal, it moves left and right accordingly.
The plugins do NOTHING except raise and lower the volume of the signal, in Mono. Zero left to right panning whatsoever.
What am I missing? What hidden setting do I need to find to get this to work?
LOL Jeebus… I have to click on the tiny single circle at the bottom of the mixer and “convert” the channel from mono to Stereo.
Weird way of “enabling” audio panning features with plugins. Truly, weird.
I can pan the Mono channel, but no plugins can pan the signal. That fried my brain for about 15 minutes.
It is not weird, this is expected behavior.
Think like this: the plugin is pre-panner, so all it sees is a mono track, so it probably only has the left channel connected in the routing (dropdown menu on the top bar in the plugin window) even though it expects a right channel too.. When the plugin pans the signal, it raises the Left and you hear it, but when it raises the Right you don’t.
Now, this mono channel is connected to a stereo bus so, naturally, you are able to pan it going into that bus. If the bus was also mono you wouldn’t be able to pan it.
When you convert the track to a stereo track the plugin can finally connect to both channels and perform correctly.
Your problem was that you created a mono track. That button was introduced back in v14 to allow users to easily switch between mono and stereo. Before that button, you would’ve had to create a new stereo track, copy the mono track settings, paste them into the new stereo track, and move the stereo audio file from the mono track to the stereo track. They didn’t change how anything works. You just made a simple mistake and Nuendo now offers an easier solution.
Hi TiKk08803, and thanks.
The audio file is Mono, from dragging a Mono audio file onto the edit window. I thought that inserting a Stereo plug in into an insert slot would change the configuration of the track itself. That was wrong on my part.
Old habit from another DAW… I’ll have to remember the way Nuendo handles Tracks from now on.
That makes sense to me now. Thanks Henrique.
Oh, I see. Having Nuendo do that would likely be a problem because of the insert channel routing system. Its a trade-off between little simple automatic things like that and having the practically unlimited control Nuendo offers. Channel routing is right up there next to the built-in channel-strip when it comes to the list of features that make Nuendo lightyears ahead of ProTools Ultimate, Logic Pro, Reaper, etc. So, I’d be beyond pissed off if they went tampering with the channel configuration features.
Anyway, now you know that you just press a button to switch tracks between mono and stereo. So, you’re all set.
On a side-note, I’d be really happy if they’d let me switch to 7.1.2, 7.1.4, 9.1.6, 5.1, 7.1, etc. the same way. I always start by mixing a stereo version for my clients. Then, I save a new version and build everything out into Atmos, to get some consistency across both versions. So, being able to switch my aux busses from stereo to 7.1.2, 7.1.4, 9.1.6, etc. that easily would save me time. More importantly, it would save me from having to redo send automations, which I use a lot.