# Note grouping question

**URL:** <https://forums.steinberg.net/t/note-grouping-question/947225>\
**Category:** Dorico\
**Created:** [October 31, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/note-grouping-question/947225 "2024-10-31T04:23:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/note-grouping-question/947225/12 "2024-10-31T16:40:33Z")

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> [@FredGUnn](#):
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> If you use the Hub or the right panel to assign the time sig, it seems like there are some Notation Options baked into the meter that won’t update if you make changes to them.

I confirm.  
After fews tests :  
If you input with factory settings (réglage A) the quarter will be tied to a quaver (normal), but if you ask for the « réglage B », nothing different : not normal.  
Unless… unless you enter a meter like this : [1+1+1+1]/4 in the Popover.  
So, that setting does not work at all if we assign a meter via the panel, or typing 4/4 in the Popover. [edit at 18:16] : after some others tests, sometime the setting works at first time, but not after, for other new inputting. 🤔

 ![Capture d’écran 2024-10-31 à 17.18.36](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/a/0/f/a0f3e2bb9a48bb03a9bb93b90cbad64b8448fa28.png)

Nonetheless, if you set the « réglage B » for this other point (see capture below), the quarter will be dotted, according to the whish of many users.  
Weird, because this setting concern a dotted quarter localised _on the first beat_, and not the second one.

 ![Capture d’écran 2024-10-31 à 17.18.53](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/2/b/6/2b6270cbd9fa0ef42e86cc05591e10418ea85975.png)

> [@FredGUnn](#):
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> There is a bug that has crept **into the current version** regarding this

I understand better now if you say that the bug has been officially recognised, because a lot of us are pulling our hair out over this Wild-Tie (the tie of Halloween). But the « bug » is also here in version 5.51 (I have not downloaded the 5.1.60)

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