Note input: Chopin-esque filigree

There is extensive discussion of entering ‘tuplets’ which can have tuplet numbers/ratios listed, etc. What about the kind of Chopin-esque filigree, with an arbitrary # of small notes, spanning one or more bars, and with no numbers listed?:

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You can do those with the Tuplet popover as well.

Eg in your example, you would enter 15:6 into the popover.

To the best of my knowledge, if you were to enter 15:8 then the 15 notes would then spread into the first beat of the next bar.

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You can hide both brackets and numbers for tuplets using these settings (but be sure to select only the tuplet itself, not the notes, else the tuplet properties will not show in the panel).

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Thanks DanielMuzMurray and Janus. And, to get the small notes and stems?

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Use the properties panel to scale the notes to your desired size.

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Thanks sspharis! (Great to get such fast answers.)

One could even try multiple hidden tuplets of different durations to speed up or slow down parts of the melisma.

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Quite cool. I haven’t yet exercised any playback in Dorico, unlike many users (I mostly am transcribing and finalizing my compositions), but would definitely be valuable – effectively micro-shaping the interpretation.

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Also to really get that look set the scale of the notes smaller, perhaps cue or gracenote size.

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