I came to read what was mentioned about the new update of NotePerformer… And nothing???
[Edit] I’m just surprised it wasn’t mentioned here, it’s been 12 hours already ![]()
I came to read what was mentioned about the new update of NotePerformer… And nothing???
[Edit] I’m just surprised it wasn’t mentioned here, it’s been 12 hours already ![]()
Note sure what you were expecting, but the fixes/improvements seem good to me.
would be interesting to hear a “before and after” rendering between 5.0 and 5.1 to see if there is any bridging of the gap between native and NPPE NotePerformer. It will take a quantum leap for me to stop using 4.5.1
Has the update been released or are we just looking at the version history?
Released.
Jesper
There also seems to be an updated 4.5.1 version. I still have kept 5.0 with all my libraries just in case, but I will try 5.1 sans libraries.
June 2024 isn’t exactly new! I can’t see any further developments to NP v.4
Well, a thread here! ![]()
Coincidentally a project I was working stopped playing back properly. Staccato notes where there shouldn’t be was one thing. So I was starting again with a clean score to fix the problem when the NP update happened. Now many things sound different. Timps louder, basses and strings generally softer. I can’t work out if it’s all down to my clean score or the update! I miss using NPPE with BBC SO so I have a previous version of NP ready to reinstall when my score is finished. The comparison will be interesting.
Edit: managed a comparison between my corrupt score and my clean one and NP 5.1 sounds very different on both. In line with what I said above about balance. I would surprised if the changes were sufficient to convince you to ditch your NP 4.5. I certainly still plan to go back to it for a final rendering of my piece using NPPE.
Edit: @Wallander I’ve been working a lot with the updated version this morning and it’s grown on me quite a bit. The staging is much improved, the timps sound is loads better and the orchestral balance much improved. All for free. Thanks!
I didn’t receive an email; so had no way of knowing there was an update.
The only way I knew one was coming is I saw the demo suddenly come up on YouTube this morning. No email either
Well, indeed for such a long period of time between May and December nothing that brings a big leap…
Arne went in a wrong direction with the NPPE, in general, which took him too much time.
I remember, long ago, I wrote to him about the idea to follow the StaffPad approach of providing sounds (StaffPad wasn’t acquired by Muse Group, yet, back then).
From the perspective of time, it seems that this was the right direction to take, having in mind how Muse Sounds system advancing and growing. Small sample libraries that provide the most basic techniques at high audio quality. The rest could be AI generated out of those samples. This approach gives many benefits to the composers, orchestrators and the arrangers:
The different timbral characteristics of the different libraries.
Option to layer instruments from different library creators. This gives even more authenticity to the author (every piece where NP is involved will sound the same, no matter how good is the playback algorithm).
The AI Playback Engines like Noteperformer + ability to import and generate sounds out of high quality recorded instrument fingerprints…. it could replace the need of using large libraries that occupy so much drive space…
I’m aware that Noteperformer is like one-man band and he needs to be involved in collaboration with Company like Yamaha/Steinberg, in order to survive and bring NP to the next level.
Image what will happen with NP if Muse Group decide to release a VST3 version of the Muse Sounds, once it has much better playback… NP will fade away…
So, no doubt Arne from @Wallander needs a good team in order to continue the competition.
I hope the team behind Dorico could discuss with Arne and the Steinberg CEO about a closer collaboration!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
You got me wrong: I’m very happy that there’s an update, and it might prove quite significant actually. There was nothing on the forum — while someone had pointed out it was out in my Facebook group (French users of Dorico) like ten hours ago ![]()
Usually, @Wallander posts here, so I was genuinely surprised.
Removed by author.
Well, I might got you wrong about “and nothing???”. Of course it’s strange how this version was released in silence. It’s the first time I didn’t get any email notification about a new release.
Anyway, still the post of mine has it’s own purpose to be here. If any further steps weren’t made to make the future development of NP more efficient and competitive, this amazing tool will follow the destiny of the scoring software like Encore and Overture.
Overture had the most intuitive, and logical UX I’ve ever seen in a scoring software, but the genius mind behind - Don Williams, “killed” his “baby”. I’ve predicted what will happen with Overture, and during this period I’ve seen some design videos of Martin Kaery - Tantacrul (back then he was a freelancing guy). I’ve showed to Don the Martin’s videos and he asked me to arrange an online meeting with Martin. I did it, and after some time Martin told me that Don refused to hire him… Well, Martin found a better place where he is highly appreciated.
I like NP, and I’m writing these posts as an early alert, in order to avoid the future of Overture, a piece of software that I also liked, no matter how many problems I had with the personality of Don.
Well the factors that “killed” Overture were 2
With NP it will be only 1:
I hope Steinberg will do something good for Noteperformer, if Arne would like, too!
Best wishes,
Thurisaz
After all the kerfuffle Arne had to endure from vendors after the release of 5.0, I can understand, perhaps, why he might be a little ‘gun shy’ here. I’m just very happy that he hasn’t given up on continuing to develop a wonderful product for us ![]()
Scoring Notes emailed out a review link for NP 5.1 this morning.
We don’t want to engage in spammy behaviour by sending emails or posting on all users’ forums, but we announce updates on our Facebook page, and the word typically spreads quickly. Anyone who wants to ensure they don’t miss an update may either subscribe to our Facebook page or Scoring Notes, which is a reliable source for notation-software-relevant updates.
Sure, here’s our direct version comparison:
Apparently that is just what I’ve done ![]()
Thx for your hard work, Arne!
thanks for that, Arne! I hear slightly more organic string transitions in certain places like around 9’15" in Nimrod and perhaps the tone is a bit less fizzy. No doubt improvements will continue to come but I need more expression in my orchestra – with the strings in particular, though of course for some others, the results are already satisfactory without using the third party libraries which is my preferred route. I imagine that the future of NP will go in a quite different direction (presumably using AI) but of course we can’t expect any info about future plans at this stage.