Well if they don’t all show up and then I unplug them and plug them back in until they show up in “devices” they do not always show up in Cubase, and if they do show up they sometimes show up unidentified.
I Think I have solved this however and here is how.
I talked to my tech buddy and he made me aware that all usb ports on a computer com in pairs and each pair is really connected to a single connection on the mother board. So I condensed my connections from 7 to 5 and made sure that I used a single hub for all the midi interfaces and put this on one of a pair not connecting anything to the other connection of that pair.
This has made things much more reliable. Of course it’s only been a day or so but it seems everything is showing up in the same order so far. This definitely helped with the connection to my 3 motu Express 128 devices.
My elicenser and ilok are not quite as happy that they now live on a hub and not on the back of the machine, but I suspect the machine will know where to look for them once it has been trained for a few more weeks.