You are aware that the pause button in Nuendo is the “zero” in the keypad, right? Second press returns to previous position.
If you wish to keep on recording just press the record button * , and in the Transport settings set it so it records without using the left locator position.
Sorry, no, when using the 0 in the Num Pad you have to restart with the START command (usually SpaceBar). This will always set a new START position. It is not possible to perform multiple PAUSE cmds like:
START (Pos1) - PAUSE - START (Pos2) - PAUSE - START(Pos3) - STOP (go back to Pos 1)
This is not possible in Nuendo. STOP will go back to the last START pos. (3 in the above example). Only by using a Marker at the beginning Pos1 can be remembered. But this is not PAUSE.
And I most often dont know on beforehand if I will want to PAUSE.
Milliampere
Not to close your circuit with too much voltage,
but your explanation of the Playing position going back, can easily be changed in the Transport Preferences.
This is what you need:
1 Yes Zero 0 on keypad stops it, and not to be pedantic, the only difference here between Pause and Stop is that recording is not active like in the old hardware tape recorders, but that’s about it, because you can record from that position by pressing
a single button " * ".
See the Transport settings bellow.
2 Next, if you want to just keep playing, go to the Transport menu, and deselect Use Pre roll, and deselect Use Post Roll. Then activate Start at Cursor Position, and now if you press Space Bar, it will just keep playing, without going back.
3 If instead of just playing after stopping, if you want to record from that position, without going back, just go to the sub-menu Common Record Modes and deselect Punch In/Out, and deselect " Start Recording at Left Locator/Punch In Position" , and then select in the same menu “Start Recording at Cursor Position” Since you just stopped, it will now record from that same position if you press “*” on the Number Pad. This is exactly like un-pausing and keep recording in the old hardware tape recorders or Reel to Reels.
The only difference here is that you press the " * " instead of the Space Bar if you decide to keep recording. Other than that, this is pausing and therefore answering the title of this thread, even though it’s using the name “Stop” instead of “Pause” , the behavior is exactly the same though.
Hopefully this did not cause a short.
I think you and some other people are missing the point:
The pause command only pauses playback throughout the timeline. The stop command goes back to the first position where “play” was initiated.
Your solution doesn’t seem to return the playback head to the first position.
Right?
Exactly.
They sold me on Pause already.
Not that I need it, but Nuendo indeed does not have a Pause function. And if there’s people needing it, they should get it.
Hey Mattias,
you perfectly understand my point and it is not something special I have to say, its a standard way of thinking in many devices and softwares. My ‘workflow situation’ is for example like this:
- I listen with my band colleagues to a recent recording
- We listen to certain sections in a song. The beginning of such a section is a START position. (‘Lets listen to that middle part there …’)
- While we listen comments are made and I want to PAUSE for noting them down and then restart / resume playback.
- This happens several times while listening to the section
- We might even want to scroll back a little bit for listening to something repeatedly
- We make some changes to certain settings (,Levels, EQ, Effects, Dynamics …)
- Then we want to listen to the same section again. (Go back to the first original START position)
- This is not a planned process, there might not be markers set already, its a spontaneous listening session. While we listen the structure of the recording becomes clear.
This requires a flow like
START (Pos saved) - PAUSE- START- PAUSE - (possibly reposition/rewind) - START- PAUSE (…) - STOP (go back to the very first saved START position.
So PAUSE means ‘don’t save a new START position when starting tansport again’.
No matter what macros have been suggested , working like this is impossible with Nuendo and I find this a little bit rediculous.
Over time you somehow get used to it but every now and again it comes up as a serious limitation. It most often happens with material that is not perfectly structured (yet). One is about to structure it and that requires a flexible workflow.
Reading your workflow, I think theres a way for making it rather painless, even if without a proper pause button:
- Setup your space bar to play from playhead position.
- Assign shift+space for play from last stop position
- Assign ctrl+space to play from selection
- Use combined selection tools.
- Check “locate when clicking empty space” in prefs.
Now, you can very quickly change how your “play” behaves, and if you lose a “stop”, you can easily just click anywhere, or click on the upper part of any event. This will do all that you described!
And assing good shortcuts for your markers, cause then you can map your tracks on the fly and have some permanent play spots following your tracks structure and points of interest.
I’m positive that if you get used to these shortcuts and the combi tool, you will blaze through that workflow and won’t even miss pause anymore.
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Hi @Milliampere in my opinion, it’s not impossible. There’s a simple solution which replicates the logic you require and it doesn’t need a macro. It works for the listening session you described above. It requires a slight modification to the standard operating procedure and uses the Range selection tool to mark the start position (Pos1).
In order to reproduce the following logic
START (Pos1) - PAUSE - START (Pos2) - PAUSE - START(Pos3) - STOP (go back to Pos 1)
Proceed as follows:
1 - select the range selection tool and click once in the project display at the position from which you want to start
2 - press L on the computer keyboard to locate the playback cursor to the selection
3 - engage playback / stop / rewind using the transport controls in the standard manner
4 - whenever you want to go back to the original start position (Pos1) press L again on the computer keyboard
P.S. in the above procedure, if you are using the numeric keypad for transport control and you find the ‘L’ keyboard shortcut awkward you could add/reassign ‘Num 3’ (numeric keypad 3) to the same function, for example. In this way all your transport shortcuts would be conveniently located on the numeric keypad.
P.P.S. this procedure is easy to use if you are in the habit of using the ‘Combine Selection Tools’ function.
Hi stingray,
I tried your idea and your proposal is probably one of the best ones but it still requires to plan for that workflow. So, instead of just starting PLAYBACK I have to set a range selection first and THEN start playback. This is not how people want to operate such a software. It is counterintuitive and unnecessary complicated. When and where I start playback is completely arbitrary, I have maybe a guitar on my knees or sit at a keyboard working on music. I need simplicity.
Another flaw is of course that if I actually need to work with a certain range selection then this becomes my starting point, wether that makes sense or not.
You have exchanged
START (Save Pos.) - PAUSE - START - PAUSE - START - STOP (go back to first START)
by
SET RANGE SELECTION - START - STOP - START - STOP - START - L (go back to left side of selected range)
Its basically similar to setting a marker. You have to plan for it.
And then the biggest drawback: It doesn’t work within a PART because there are no range selection in PARTs. One would have to mark events which are then the selected range. (Dont use the arrow keys any longer while doing this !!!)
I want to work fast, simple and intuitive and I am missing a basic long time industry standard command. I have no clue why people are defending such a flaw and suggest complex workaround type of solutions that compromise other functionality. (Marker mess up, range selections occupied for transport logic etc.) .
This doesn’t make any sense to me.
Please see my reply to Stingray. I work lot with range selections and ‘L’ or ‘R’ keys for moving around. It always requires that you have something defined as a selected item, a range, a part, an event etc.
- This has to be ‘planned’
- Once you change to a different tool the selection is gone. It is not possible to edit an automation event and then go back.
Etc.
Can we please simply have one of the most basic and simple commands in here called PAUSE?
I understand that you wanted something simple and that’s what I offered. It matches the listening scenario you described above. In my case, I’m not actually defending anything at all, my aim was simply to help you out with the procedure you described above.
If you’d like to put in a specific feature request for a pause button then, of course, please do so but TBH I doubt very much that SB would want to implement it any time soon, if ever. In the meantime, for your specific requirements, you don’t have much choice but to find a suitable workaround.
Not true. The range selection is remembered.
Thanks, very much appreciated, and your proposal is one of the best so far. But I just played with it for a while and what doesn’t work is the fact, that when I pause (STOP in your flow) and edit something in most cases the selection is gone. That’s a NoGo. I mean I PAUSE BECAUSE I want to edit something.
The means of TRANSPORT is that wherever you are, whatever you do, without any thinking about it - press SPACEBAR and you will START and STOP. And now it needs START, STOP and PAUSE. (Which could be any other key).
Not true. The range selection is remembered.
Not in my setup. I select a range, then I choose the arrow toool and select a part or an event. The selection is gone.
Maybe this is a translation problem. I am using a German version. Range Selection = ‘Auswahlbereich’ ?
yeah, the selection is gone for as long as you remain with the object selection tool active. When you go back to the range selection tool the previously selected range is still there.
Ditto what I mentioned above. The range selection is remembered, so this is going to depend upon what kind of editing. Remember also that the range selection has selection A and B which might help you out in certain cases.
yeah, the selection is gone for as long as you remain with the object selection tool active.
The range selection is remembered, so this is going to depend upon what kind of editing.
Transport tools must be independent from any editing flow. I cannot think about which editing will mess up my START position and which not. It is still about making music, not creating software workarounds in my brain.
We can all pick holes in any particular workflow and I’m not suggesting Nuendo is infallible but IMHO it’s pretty flexible for most scenarios and workflows. The more useful question might be - while you wait for that pause button to arrive (probably a long time) how are you going to adapt the software to meet your needs.
If any of the suggested workarounds don’t work for you, then they don’t work for you. That’s fine. In this case I guess you’re stuck waiting for the implementation of a pause button.
Miliamperez I must say you seem very tough to please.
If you need so badly that the start point doesn’t change, create a marker dude, its one press of a key.
It seems also that you don’t know the software very deeply and doesn’t want to learn it.
These workarounds are more than good enough for fast work, but if you wanna sit and complain while steinberg thinks about life, it’s your choice!
Good luck
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I am working with Nuendo since 2007, sorry, I find your comment inappropriate.
Well if you’ve been missing a pause button for 16 years and haven’t come up with a workaround, having so many options, I don’t know what to say.
The task you described is very simple.
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I was using Sonar Artist and just recently started using Cubase. On Sonar, in order to pause, you just clicked on the start control and it would pause. Hit it again, and it would resume play. Eezy peezy. Why can’t Cubase come up with this easy solution?
I am just getting up to speed with Cubase, but I find that certain controls needlessly complicated.