# Objects moving after saving or printing **URL:** \ **Category:** Dorico\ **Created:** [July 19, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020 "2024-07-19T19:42:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/1 "2024-07-19T19:42:10Z")
Hello, I have some difficulties keeping small objects like ties and lines in place after having moved them by hand. They seem to jump up or down, sometimes I have to move them more than ten times until they stay where I want them to be. It also happens that after saving or printing the project they have moved again. How can I stop objects to move? Do I have to change seomething somewhere in the settings, f.e.? Thanks a lot! Best, Annegret ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_R](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/christian_r/32/188142_2.png) [@Christian\_R](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Christian_R)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/2 "2024-07-19T20:29:19Z")
Hi @amayerlindenberg and welcome to the Forum. It is difficult to depict what you are experiencing from your description. Could you make a video screen recording of what happens, to understand better what is going on? ---
**Author:** ![benwiggy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/benwiggy/32/1715_2.png) [@benwiggy](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/benwiggy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/3 "2024-07-19T20:43:27Z")
> [@amayerlindenberg](#): > > after having moved them by hand. In Dorico, moving things by hand is for small adjustments, and is usually the last resort, after all other options have been exhausted. Can you describe what you did? But really, we need to see a project file, or screenshots. ---
**Author:** ![hamsandwichnow](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/hamsandwichnow/32/262525_2.png) [@hamsandwichnow](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/hamsandwichnow)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/4 "2024-07-19T20:54:39Z")
Welcome to the forum! I don’t think something could move between editing it in Engrave mode and printing… as the other people have said, could we see the file? ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/5 "2024-07-19T21:57:12Z")
![IMG_20240719_234059](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/b/a/f/baf004c048f5f79e364806cb891ea8f9665bcd6d.jpeg) this is how it should look like (bar 30-32) ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/6 "2024-07-19T21:57:56Z")
![IMG_20240719_234758](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/4X/5/7/0/57044d733274157126bae553d708da197066a764.jpeg) after saving it, closing the programme and reopening it, it looks like this (bar 30-32) ---
**Author:** ![hamsandwichnow](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/hamsandwichnow/32/262525_2.png) [@hamsandwichnow](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/hamsandwichnow)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/7 "2024-07-19T22:04:25Z")
Are these just lines or dedicated glissandos? ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/8 "2024-07-19T22:07:25Z")
they are lines, I use them as glissandos and also arrows above the stave ---
**Author:** ![dspreadbury](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/dspreadbury/32/328687_2.png) [@dspreadbury](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/dspreadbury)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/9 "2024-07-19T22:28:50Z")
If you’re able to attach the project, that would be helpful. Without seeing the project, I’m not sure what to suggest. ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/10 "2024-07-20T04:48:09Z")
Dear Daniel, attached you find the project. Thanks a lot! best, Annegret > **(attachments)** > > [EtwasFastInDerMitte\_Partitur\_klingend.dorico](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/dhVIIbuidvBY9X9aT3mRSILHqnj.dorico) (561 KB) ---
**Author:** ![Andro](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/andro/32/124134_2.png) [@Andro](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Andro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/11 "2024-07-20T05:58:23Z")
Why not use glissandos, pray tell? If you did, I think that is half your problem solved, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/12 "2024-07-20T06:23:01Z")
I don’t want the word “gliss” above the line every time, I only want to have the line between the two notes. ---
**Author:** ![RobinHoffmann](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/robinhoffmann/32/203240_2.png) [@RobinHoffmann](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/RobinHoffmann)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/13 "2024-07-20T06:53:09Z")
You can deactivate the “gliss” locally via the properties panel or globally in Engrave Mode ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/14 "2024-07-20T07:06:04Z")
Thankyou, I found it! That’s part of it solved…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Andro](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/andro/32/124134_2.png) [@Andro](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Andro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/15 "2024-07-20T09:03:48Z")
Yes, you can turn of the text on a gliss. It’s annoying you have to do it for each one, but it is the answer to that. ---
**Author:** ![Janus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@Janus](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Janus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/16 "2024-07-20T09:08:47Z")
> [@Andro](#): > > It’s annoying you have to do it for each one, but it is the answer to that. You can do it all in one go at the end. Select all, filter glissando lines… set text property. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Johnson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/mark_johnson/32/143124_2.png) [@Mark\_Johnson](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Mark_Johnson)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/17 "2024-07-20T12:03:54Z")
There is also an Engraving Option, folks! Set that for the majority of cases; override it in Properties when needed. ---
**Author:** ![dspreadbury](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/dspreadbury/32/328687_2.png) [@dspreadbury](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/dspreadbury)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/18 "2024-07-20T13:55:38Z")
Annegret, I think you will find the results better if you use grouped playing techniques with continuation lines, rather than using separate playing techniques and line items. This video introduces the idea: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0noZsqXZ-Tk/maxresdefault.jpg "Playing Techniques Improvements | New Features in Dorico 3") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0noZsqXZ-Tk) More information in the operation manual here: [https://www.steinberg.help/r/dorico-pro/5.1/en/dorico/topics/notation\_reference/notation\_reference\_playing\_techniques/notation\_reference\_playing\_techniques\_continuation\_lines\_c.html](https://www.steinberg.help/r/dorico-pro/5.1/en/dorico/topics/notation_reference/notation_reference_playing_techniques/notation_reference_playing_techniques_continuation_lines_c.html) ---
**Author:** ![amayerlindenberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@amayerlindenberg](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/amayerlindenberg)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/objects-moving-after-saving-or-printing/924020/19 "2024-07-21T20:16:49Z")
Great - this is very helpful, thanks a lot! 🙂