Oh how far things have come

(As an aside to folks who don’t live here, there used to be so many fantastic classical music related places in NYC and so, so many of them are long gone. The Juilliard Store is still happily thriving, and it warms my heart every time I’m there. If you’re visiting the city, it’s well worth dropping in.)

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So true, unfortunately. I used to have a regular gig at the club next to Patelson’s, so used to shop there often. (I still have only played across the street from there once, LOL). In the 90s I had a part-time job in the rental library of Boosey & Hawkes above Carl Fischer, so routinely dropped in Carl Fischer to look around too. RIP Colony and most of 48th St. I was a copyist for Chas. Colin so shopped there some (they carried mostly brass and jazz stuff), and on the copyist side of things used to shop at Associated Music and King Brand too. All gone now. The Julliard Store is still great though, so I try to stop in when I’m in the neighborhood.

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This is the printed page of the Henle plate

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Did you print it yourself…? :grin:

Such a skilled and dedicated craft/artform.! When you know patience is a virtue…

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Just entered the notes. Matching it exactly would require changing a lot of my engraving options and a fair amount of manual work, which I haven’t done (hardly) any. I’ll save that for another day.

Not sure I like everything in the original: the inner voice stems are very short (which helps squish the staves together, of course).

I don’t know how you would put the right-hand fingering for notes in the lower staff with the other right-hand numbers…?

It took me about 50 mins, with cats and other distractions. I reckon making the plate took a bit longer!

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I think for an average page one day was estimated. What font did you use? Scorlatti?

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Oh, wow, I never attempted that! I definitely agree about the inner stems. Bars 153, 165, etc. are really short in the original, way shorter than 2.5 spaces.

Sebastian. What else? ™

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I think the short stems on the inner voices is one of the things that obviously sets the Henle engraving apart from computer engraving. When I first looked at the original I just thought it looked wonderful and I didn’t notice the short stems. As a pianist of over 50 years I think the shorter stems are preferable to having wider staves and when you play such a piece, it all makes sense. I just noticed that although you can adjust the stem length in Dorico in Engrave mode, there is no property for the stem length which was surprising. It would be useful to be able to filter stems in a passage and reduce their length uniformly, although in this instance each stem length has been considered independently by the engraver because of the slurs and articulation markings. This again shows the artistry of these plate engravers and these small discrepancies are part of the reason these scores look so good IMO.

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I may have already mentioned this, but I used Sebastian for a project recently, a landscape-shaped songbook for a German immigrant congregation. Sebastian was an absolutely perfect fit for the book. Brilliant.

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Here’s a version with some extra fiddling (without any cats - sadly ours passed away two years ago), trying to come close to the Henle edition

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So I found a rare book dealer that was selling some original folios from Diderot’s famous “Encyclopédie,” published between 1751 and 1772. He happened to have the folios on music engraving so I bought them.





It seemed like a pretty cool thing to add to my collection, that I might not ever see for sale again, so thought I’d share.

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Very cool, indeed.

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@benwiggy is Sebastian the best? Why is it so obvious you used that? I’m really curious!

Ah dang, I moved here in 2009. Sounds like I missed all the fun stuff! Sad I never got to see the Carl Fischer store.

Definitely grateful for the Julliard Store though, and always stop by when I’m up there.

Further downtown when I was near B&H at 34th & 9th I used to stop by the Sam Ash – only that particular location had a large band music department with a decent sized collection of sheet music - classical, band, jazz. Not nearly as good as Julliard, but if I was buying a camera I didn’t need at B&H, I figured I might as well see what’s going on… :wink: Unfortunately though they’ve closed all their brick & mortar stores, which seems to be the trend.

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I once received a review of a piece that might well have read “These Strange-Sounding ‘Notes’ are Not Generally Understood by the Rest of the World” had the reviewer been a better writer.

He made it!

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This is a light-hearted reference to @benwiggy being the developer of the Sebastian font.

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LOL! Love B&H! I’m a pretty serious photographer as well so B&H has taken a lot of my money over the years! I’m actually typing this on a MacBook I got from B&H in September. Definitely a toy store for grown-ups.

Yeah, all the brick & morter Sam Ash’s are now dead. I was sort of lurking and checking out how deep the sales would go but didn’t get anything substantial. I have a student that got an amazing deal on an alto flute though. Glad the Julliard Store is still going strong!

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