One player trilling in playback when not so marked

The viola part in a score I’m working on has just started trilling in playback, when no trill is marked. Also on the wrong pitches, though with the right rhythm. I’m using NotePerformer 4. The problem begins well into the piece, after a passage of trills in all string parts, but the problem is only in viola. I’ve tried closing and reopening the file; closing and reopening Dorico. Very odd!

Try to remove the last trill in the viola and sees if that helps.

If so, try to recreate the trill, see if that’s ok then

If not, could you attach the project file so members with access to Noteperformer 4 can have a look. Maybe just some measures of only viola will do, as long as the problem is there

Good thought… I’ve removed every trill in the viola part. Now the whole piece’s playback is trills (viola only). Mind you, I’ve been gradually developing this score for about six weeks, and this just started today. So bizarre.

Hichiriki Quartet.dorico (557.8 KB)

I’m attaching the file hoping someone who uses NP4 will have some idea.

You appear to have trills on every note in the viola…

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Thanks Janus for taking a look. Those figures are in all the string parts and are not trills, but in your screen shot I see those little tags indicating trills. How do you reveal those tags, or what are they called? because I don’t see them. Do you see them in the other string parts (which are written the same way but are not trilling on playback)?

View>Signposts>Set all signposts shown

If you select one, you see in the status line (bottom of screen) that it is a trill. But it doesn’t behave like a normal Dorico ornament.

You can get rid of them (weirdly) this way:

  • Use the score galley view and Hide all the signposts
  • Duplicate the Viola Player (in Setup), so you now have two.
  • Select all the original viola material (select the first note, then edit>select to end of flow)
  • Right-click>Paste special> duplicate to stave below
  • In Setup Delete Viola 1

(What is strange is I could not delete them any other way. Perhaps some help from the team @dspreadbury could enlighten us?)

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This is so helpful, thank you. I hope there’s a more straightforward fix, though I can certainly do what you’ve described.

My remaining question is, how did this happen? Only in one player? If I knew how it happened I might be able to reverse it, should it happen in future.

It’s actually in every instrument except the top staff – very strange indeed.

EDIT: They appear to be hidden trill intervals. If you go to a tr signpost that is above an actual trill (attached, trill turns blue with signpost is selected) and fiddle with the interval setting in properties, you can make them disappear (and reappear depending on interval chosen).

Interesting about adjusting trills in Properties, but that seems to have no effect on these spurious signposts in the viola part. Is there no way simply to delete them?

Sorry, not that I can figure out. They don’t copy and paste, so @Janus solution with a 2nd instrument is probably the best.

Thanks all. Janus’s solution works, not that difficult, but I still wonder how this happened…