“I have a piece where the singers both speak and sing. I would like the spoken parts to be on a single line, while the singing parts remain on the standard five lines. I’ve marked the issue in the image.”
See the options on the Staves and Systems page of Layout Options for options regarding staff labels, and the Players page for options concerning instrument changes.
Have tried today all this options… not working
I could manage names in the beginning T. instead T1 & T, but couldn’t delete instrument change T.
You can hide those indications individually in Engrave mode via the Properties panel.
Hi @Mehmet_Yesilcay,
following the useful suggestions by Daniel, and a trick:
- you can edit the names of the two instruments, deleting their short names and putting just an empty space for the short name:
- as you can set the instrument change labels to use the short names, they will not appear if you use just a space for them (so no need to hide them manually)
- I also deactivated the Instrument change warnings, and choose the option Before first note in new instrument.
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I also edited the long and short names for the player, and choose the Layout option Show player name instead of instrument names for that player:
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as bonus you can change the notehead for the natural playing technique to X notehead:
Here the Dorico example file:
tenor singigng ans speaking hide labels with space in short names.dorico (517.9 KB)
Result:
Great lyrics.
Jesper
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Christian, thank you very much! Everything worked. This kind of solution is very helpful since I have the German version of Dorico. Without images, it’s always difficult to figure out what needs to be done.
You can select the first bar in that staff, Shift+ K , open, and Alt+Enter to give it an independent key signature. Do the same (or copy the “Atonal” signpost) to the Bass percussion staff.
I’m sure there’s a way to do this using an unpitched instrument, but that’s not my area of expertise.
You can edit the Instrument Definition (clicking on the three little dots near the instrument name in Setup mode) for that instrument and deactivate the Use key signature checkbox.
(or just change that instrument to an unpitched percussion instrument with 1 line, and this option is automatic disabled. You need to rename the instrument long and short names after changing the instrument…)
Have a new problem: how can I insert only a text without notes in the speaking part? Your system works only with inserted notes
Here is how I personally write narrated text. It requires (jet*) some manual adjusting, but it looks clear and elegant (in my very humble opinion).
Dorico file example:
tenor singigng and speaking hide labels with space in short names-and text.dorico (618.1 KB)
Result:
Workflow:
- I use a custom Narrator Paragraph Style with white Background for the staff-attached text (that has manual line breaks). The white background takes care of hiding both the line and the bar rest.
- The staff-attached text, inserted in Galley view into the “Tenor speaking” instrument, has a Border active Property (you can activate the border in the Paragraph Style, but then when you select the text it will be all an orange block, so I prefer to use the property)
- to let the empty bar with only text appear in Page view, I insert an empty Chord Symbol Region (from menu Write/Create Chord Symbol Region)
- I set Note Spacing Changes (one with an appropriate change value, and one as reset)
- In Engraving options/Text, I put the padding to 1
- unfortunately the text has to be moved manually in the middle of the line, so as the staff spacing, both in Engrave mode
*[I hope that in future Dorico will capable to let you put staff attached text inside the system, as now possible with horizontal lines, so that that the manual positioning, and the staff positioning are automatic. And also that the text itself will be able to automatically spread the width of the bar, where only text is present, as in this case in bar 8, without needing of manual Note Spacing Changes ]
Tipp: you can copy note spacing changes between layouts Here a little workflow video:
Thanks a lot. In Sibelius, these things are much easier, like hiding a note. Dorico still has a lot to improve; right now, these issues feel like creativity killers
Here is a little script for quality of life:
It hides selected notes in Engraving Mode. Put it in your scripts folder, name it to your liking, restart Dorico and invoke it from the Jump Bar
local app=DoApp.DoApp()
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteHideStem&Value=string: "true"]])
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteHideNotehead&Value=null: ]])
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteLedgerLineHide&Value=string: "true"]])
I get syntax error with this script
It works on my side. To be used in Engrave Mode.
Here it is in a format that might be easier to copy:
local app=DoApp.DoApp()
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteHideStem&Value=string: “true”]])
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteHideNotehead&Value=null: ]])
app:doCommand([[UI.InvokePropertyChangeValue?Type=kNoteLedgerLineHide&Value=string: “true”]])