Open an LE or PLE preset via a standard menu and key command without applying it

[Hear2Help]

I really like the improvements to PLE/LE and really hope they continue development in this part of the program.

But.

Definitely need to be able to prompt open presets without applying them.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@method1

Attached crash log from attempting to use an LE command.

Which command exactly did you try to use, please?

[method1]

Hi, it was a custom MLE script to randomize midi velocity.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@Hear2Help

Definitely need to be able to prompt open presets without applying them.

You can do so. Just go to the Project > Project Logical Editor > Setup.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@method1

it was a custom MLE script to randomize midi velocity.

Could you share it (the screenshot) or the description, please?

[method1]

Hi Martin, with due respect, this topic is now quite old, and many users have chimed in, it seems you are not understanding the application that used to be possible but now no longer is.

It is not possible to open a specific command without applying it.
Yes you can open the menu, but not a specific macro as was possible in the past.

Please see this post for clarity

Open an LE or PLE preset via a standard menu and key command without applying it

Yes, please fix this! It was a very common way for LE/PLE users to work, because we don’t create presets for every single variable of difference… We create a few presets around common averages for hotkeys, and then we create a macro that prompts the P/LE editor then loads the preset so that we can enter in exact variables. I would imagine, if no other P/LE user has complained about this yet, it’s because they haven’t realized it yet.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@method1

Yes you can open the menu, but not a specific macro as was possible in the past.

What do you mean by a Macro, please?

I can open it this way:

It’s not applied. It becomes applied once I click the Apply button.

[Hear2Help]

Let’s say I have three PLE presets

Preset A
Preset B
Preset C

I have these assigned to key commands, and I want Preset B because I know it is in the ballpark of what I am after.

Simply hitting the key command for Preset B will apply the P/LE preset right away.

But, I don’t want the exact values of Preset B, I want to alter them to a specific value pertaining to the specific material at hand.

Previously,
A Macro was created ‘Open PLE Window’+‘Preset B’

this would open the PLE Window and then cue Preset B but not apply, and thus could enter the values, then hit apply.

[Martin.Jirsak]

Hi,

@Hear2Help

A Macro was created ‘Open PLE Window’+‘Preset B’

Do you really mean a Macro, now? Do you have a screenshot of any kind of Macro, please?

[method1]

This is unfortunately going nowhere, the problem has been explained multiple times, you cannot open a specific LE preset for editing with a shortcut anymore.

Martin, please re-read the thread, it has been explained multiple times.

[Hear2Help]

yes key commands macro

open PLE window
+
desired PLE preset

in Macro

Macro assigned to key command

[Hear2Help]

@method1

This is unfortunately going nowhere, the problem has been explained multiple times, you cannot open a specific LE preset for editing with a shortcut anymore.

Martin, please re-read the thread, it has been explained multiple times.

At least it’s getting bumped

[steve]

I post this again because there seems to be a breakdown in understanding what the users in this thread are asking for.

@steve

@Martin.Jirsak this topic is about a function that is now missing:
The issue is that previously, if you had a preset that you want to open and adjust slightly before applying, you could

• open the LE or PLE
• hit the key command shortcut for that preset, and
• the preset would open in the LE or PLE

This is what @method1 means when they say “dynamic macro”.

Since the redesign for C12, this no longer happens. Now, the user must fumble about using the mouse and keyboard to manually select the preset for editing.

Significant loss, imo.

@Martin.Jirsak

What is the use case, please? Why do you want to open the preset in the LE/PLE window and not to apply it immediately? Do you want to edit it?

I want to Edit it.

Thread participants here are asking for only one thing, and that is this:

• To open the PLE or LE and
• then hit a key command that is assigned to a PLE preset to
• have that preset open in the PLE without invoking its function.

Nothing more than that.

[Greg_Purkey]

@steve

have that preset open in the PLE without invoking its function.

…because there may be a PLE parameter that needs to be changed to make the PLE applicable to your specific objective before actually executing it.

Hope that helps?

[awesomeaudio]

This is still broken it seems,

surprising, as it’s a very essential feature for diehard PLE users.

It literally renders half my PLE presets nearly unusable because I do not want to automatically apply the functions.

If for whatever reason this can’t be fixed…

I’ve always thought there should be two different windows, one for editing/creating PLEs, and one for Calling specific parameters of a PLE.

The Call window would work by users adding it first to a the beginning of a Macro, when the Call window is open, any PLE executed will present its parameters into the PLE call window. The Call window would be a bit different in that it is set up for users to easily keyboard-tab through the parameter value boxes.. If the user wants to further deep edit, there could be a button to open up the full PLE window.

edit

I’ve made a feature request to present this Call Window idea:

PLE Call Window (Separate from PLE Edit Window), Project Logical Editor feature request - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

[method1]

I’ve given up hope to be honest, I think us LE nerds are in the minority.
Now in 15 they’ve cosmetically changed the LE again by adding these new drop down fields.

Just more arbitrary changes that breaks automation instead of restoring functionality we used to have.