Open Meter is Not Working

Hello,

I have a flow with 98 bars. I inputted all of the bars except for one because at the time I didn’t know how to do a cadenza. I tried using the open meter feature, but for whatever reason the bar only allows me to input three beats. The entire flow is in 3/4 time. I have selected all of the bars before and after the cadenza bar and used Shift+M to insert a 3/4 time signature, but that still doesn’t help my cadenza bar issue. What am I doing wrong?

Hi @35TCB77 ,
you may want to use insert mode, the Global Adjustment of Current Bar

Yeah, I tried that just now, and that’s not working for me. Here’s the file. It’s bar 59 of flow 2.

Clarinet Concerto (Mozart).dorico (1.9 MB)

Works fine here.

Jesper

Clarinet Concerto (Mozart).dorico (1.9 MB)

Idk what’s going on then with Dorico on my end then. I’ll download your version and use it. Did you use insert mode or did you just insert the notes like normal?

Insert mode with global adjustment of current bar. I redid the open time signature.

Jesper

What’s “global adjustment of current bar” mean?

The fourth insert mode option. You can switch insert mode with alt/opt i

Jesper

I’ll try that here in a minute. Thanks!

Thanks, @AndreLorenzatti and @jesele for the help! I got the cadenza inserted!

Sorry to be pedantic, but the Mozart Clarinet Concerto does not have any cadenzas. They are eingänge, which can easily be notated using hidden tuplet(s) rather than an open TS.

Well, according to the version I have, it’s called a cadenza. The number above this bar leads to a footnote. The footnote says it’s a suggested cadenza.

Sorry to tell you your version is wrong.

BTW, you know this measure was not composed by Mozart (although it’s similar to a passage in his Clarinet Quintet)?

Nobody knows exactly what Mozart wrote. His original score was lost. His original hand sketched of the first 199 bars still exists, but the complete score of the entire concerto was lost. Stadler either had the original completed score, the one that was used before the concerto being published in 1802, but he had gotten it stolen, lost it during a move, or pawned it to make money. So, because of that, publishers in Leipzig and Offenbach had to use the orchestral parts to basically guess what Mozart originally composed.

I would use a 3:2q tuplet for the dotted half note and a 20:4x tuplet for the last crotchet/quarter note as already be suggested. This is simple fractional arithmetic and looks pretty good.

I admit that the tie is a slur to get the first “cadenza” note scaled, and it’s a bit adjusted in Engrave Mode. But even with this effort overall it’s easier than an open time signature.

I’ll look at changing the bar in a while. I’ve currently ran into a different issue.

It’s otherwise possible to tie notes of different scales if they don’t belong to the same voice: