As in the title, Dorico 6.1.10.6078 (Oct 8 2025) on macOS. Pages where there is no music frame don’t export with a flow, and only export at all when I select “all” in the export settings. While debugging this I realised that music frames have a “Flows” filter that text frames do not; nor do they have a Flows property.
This accords with what I read here but that was from 2018 and I was hoping that it would be handled differently now.
Does this mean that I’m just out of luck and I’ll have to crop from a bigger PDF each time?
I understand that that is the logic within Dorico-land. However, that is quite inconvenient. Text frames ought to have a property that specifies a Flow they (optionally) could belong to. I see no reason why that isn’t the case.
Hi @satchbot, I am not quite sure I understand your needs. If you Print/Export Pages, instead of Flows (you can choose also non adjacent pages), all the text present in the “layout” of that page/s will be exported… Can you upload the Dorico Project, and describe what are you trying to export?
I tried this and it works! Since it works I suppose this thread can be marked as resolved.
I do feel that is inconvenient and unintuitive to use page numbers to reference what you wish to export, especially if you want to export multiple non-contiguous Flows in anything larger than the smallest projects. And I feel like it goes against the Flow-based philosophy that Dorico uses everywhere.
In any case I have made up a little test project that explains what I was trying to achieve.
when you export a flow, Dorico will export all the pages that contains music frames where the music flows (you choose to export a flow )
If in those pages that have a music frame there is also some text or graphic frames, they will exported too, because Dorico exports the whole page that has a music frame.
If a page doesn’t have a music frame will not be exported, as no music flows in it.
So exporting the page, instead, is a good method (for those cases where you have a flow interrupted by a page without music frames).
That said, if you want a workflow where you absolutely need to export flows and not pages (for whatever reason) there is a workaround. You just need to be sure that all pages has a music frame, and hide the systems that you don’t want to see (your choice if this makes sense or is crazy…).
Workaround workflow:
Basically you delete the page overrides on the second page (copy your text first).
Add a bar after bar 19. Then you make a frame break at bar 20, then another frame break at bar, 21. So you will have the second page with only one bar.
Now make a bar number change at bar 21, and make it as bar 20 (you will have bar 20 twice, but we will hide the first one):
In Engrave mode, shrink the start and end of the system in page 2:
Now create a graphic frame in the second page, full length, and so high as the system, and load the attached file white rectangle.svg. Make it fill the frame. Drag the graphic frame so that the only system is covered and so will be hidden:
Intereatingly, if you tell Dorico to print a flow, it will actually print from the page which includes the start of the flow to the page which includes the end of the flow—including anything on those pages before the start or after the end.
So if you had a text frame at the top of a page on which a flow begins, that frame does not belong to the flow but will print with it.
I wonder if you could trick Dorico into printing a text frame on the page before a flow begins by including a music frame at the bottom of the page which is too short to display any music but which nonetheless represents the “start” of the flow. (I’m away from my computer and can’t try it right now.)
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