I am very happy about the release of CB 14 and especially about the new pattern events / editor. I’m currently playing around with it and wonder if
I’ve overlooked a function to record notes live into the pattern events? Is there a function for this in the editor that I have overlooked? It is not mentioned in the documentation.
There also doesn’t seem to be a way to convert midi events to pattern events.
When I record over a pattern event I get a stacked/mixed midi event (depending on the midi recording mode), you can’t glue them together either.
I am wondering the same.
Being able to record live in the new Pattern Editor (plus a quantize option) would be a game changer and make usage of 3rd party tools like Geist 2 or Maschine obsolete in most of at least my use cases.
Strong vote from my side to add this, since the current CB14 pattern approach is really great but without live recording, it misses a huge opportunity.
It would be nice in general to be able to switch an instrument track from midi part to pattern editor behaviour at anytime. The pattern editor has some great functionality that makes it interesting for synths, too. I mean per step changes of any parameter of third party synths? Yes!
It would be nice to convert midi events to pattern events.
But what is the point of recording live to a pattern? For that use midi events, I think that the point of pattern editor is to graphically insert notes in the boxes and experiment with randomizers… IMHO.
Exactly, I was already wondering why this is apparently a one-way action. The potential for melodic patterns combined with all the cool scales and chord functions and the new per step modulations in Cubase is almost infinite. Let’s see what happens.
Why record anything live at all, I mean I use Cubase to record my stuff so it would be the obvious thing to do in any situation ?
And in my case it would simply be in the interest of convenience, because I work a lot with hardware sequencers (Elektron) and recording into the step sequencer is a matter of course.
Maybe I’m a bit old school here, but I would like to record notes into my patterns.
My question (cause I want to learn) wasnt why do you want to record live but what is the benefit of recording live to a pattern. Anyway maybe I´m not interested in your answers anymore…
In S1 or Logic patterns can have notes of arbitrary length (or at least multiplies of grid size). Not in Cubase, unfortunately. It seems it was designed strictly for drums, which is a terrible pity
I think the pattern editor is amazing. Breeds new life into my drum plug-ins.
Must say that for a first version the pattern editor is very feature rich. Like how the step lanes get their names if you have a drum map assigned to the instrument/midi track. Or how you can create plug-in step automation in the pattern editor controller lane, just lovely feature for drum synth plug-ins.
The “Convert Pattern Event to MIDI part” is a one way street for obvious reasons but I guess a future “Convert MIDI part to Pattern Event” could use some kind of tool-window with options for number of steps, step resolution, step lane count, pitch and what not to handle the potential midi event/note loss. (Kind of like how the “Render in place” feature has settings when converting from MIDI part to audio.)
Midi live recording and step recording seems like obvious additions to the pattern editor. Surely they have this on the roadmap for future releases.
Other things that I’m wishing for is:
Proper undo/redo in the pattern editor. (I want undo/redo adding steps like in the key editor.)
A preset load/save system for the patterns.
A mouse-wheel up/down change of the step lane note pitch instead of the dropdown thingy would be way faster.
Some way to select two or more step lanes and do things like “Remove all steps from selected step lanes”.
Yes, this would be nice to have for melodic content as I can’t find a way to hold a note. My fear with anything Steinberg is the way they launch new features and maintain it for the first 6-12 months and then it’s left and they move onto something else.
I really hope elements like this, the lack of undo button and the ability to reverse order of notes get added soon for that reason.
Reading the help, “Pattern Editor is an integral part of the drum track and harmonizes with the Drum Machine” therefore it’s almost completely useless for melodic stuff…
I couldn’t find an obvious way to add empty Pattern event to existing instrument track that’s not DM (actually, C14 crashes when you try dragging VST Instrument onto a Drum Track!)
When I finally manage to add such an empty Pattern (via Project / open Pattern Editor & dragging the Pattern onto the track), it:
only shows 8 pitches / notes, so each one has to be added manually
they’re ordered low → high, so inverse of the typical piano roll and I’m not sure they can be reordered
(as already said) you can’t tie notes / make them longer than grid step
Via the timeline, You can use the draw tool which looks like a pencil (Or hold down Cmd with the select tool) to draw a new pattern in. Provided that Pattern Event is selected for that track, of course.
It is very good, just a shame when you open up the Logic mixer and you wish you were then back in Cubase haha.
It’s only a few tweaks away, it will be frustrating if they do drop the ball on this. Does concern me how this has gone through development, through beta testing and there’s no undo function though. Feels somewhat rushed, so i’m hoping they are committed to seeing it through to completion.
