Percussion sound routing

Hi all,

More percussion problem… I cannot get the actual percussive sound that is visually being triggered correctly to the correct midi note, both in dorico and in EW Opus, to play audibly. What I mean, is that all the correct triggers are happening, but no sound is coming out. When I play the Opus keyboard for the timpani, the clash cymbals, the snare drums, and the bass drums, all their respective sounds comes out correctly. But when I play from my keyboard no sound comes out, although I can see the correct notes being triggered. And this is the same when I play the music I’ve written in dorico, all instruments sound perfectly well, but every percussion instruments (inc timpani) fail to produce any sound, although they are visually triggering the correct notes on the Opus keyboard (I am seeing the correct notes on the Opus keyboard being played).

So I tried reloading my library - No difference. I then loaded a different percussion sound for each of them, and initially I got sound from the timpani, but then after a brief period… nothing. The timpani sound just disappeared.

Can anyone help.

Many thanks

Stéphane

Could you provide a file that exhibits the problem? Someone with your libraries could probably try and find out where the problem is.

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Hmmm, I’m not sure what would help. I could upload screen shots? With the correct triggers going on? What kind of other files might help?

A Dorico file that exhibits the problem is clearly the best thing you could share !

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A Dorico project file exhibiting the problem (just a few notes is all that’s needed). I have all the EW stuff and I can take a look.

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I’m trying to get a video and audio file sent over, as short as possible, so you can clearly see.

This first screen shot shows Dorico being triggered by my playing on the keyboard - No sound, and triggering Opus - No sound.

Screen shot 1.pdf (127.1 KB)

In this screen shot you can see the music of my score playing, and Opus being triggered, but still no sound.

Screeshot2.pdf (184.1 KB)

I hope this helps. I won’t be able to do anything till tomorrow now. Thank you both for your help.

It’s very hard to see the routing inside of the Opus instance. Coincendently, though, I had a similar problem last week and traced it back to a VST that had all slots pinned to one particular MIDI channel. I could press the keys on the VST and hear the audio via Dorico, but neither the score nor my MIDI keyboard would trigger sound.

A better resolution screenshot showing: A) Opus; B) the Routing pane and; C) the Mixer. But, a cut down Dorico project is by far the best way we can help (save as, delete everything except a few notes, post here).

Is your Expression Map or Percussion Map set to the proper octave to reflect the VST’s interpretation of Middle C?

Yes, I checked that yesterday and made a change to my cymbals as they were not hitting the correct note.

I’m really struggling to get my dorico file compressed. I can’t get it lower than 17mb even though it’s only one bar. Am I doing something wrong?

Apply the Silence Playback template.

Jesper

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Right, finally got it. This is a really pared back version with litterally only the percussion on one bar and one note for the violin.

Dorico issue.dorico (2.6 MB)

So I can’t really tell you what is wrong, but my guess is some setting in the Timpani patch got tweaked. To fix it, all I did was replace Timpani Hits with itself (basically replaced the misconfigured instrument with a fresh one).

Also, your expression map should use velocity as the main volume controller and CC11 as the secondary, otherwise you won’t have any dynamics.

Lastly, your routing has all audio going out Opus 3&4 when I think you want each sending to their own output (Main L&R, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8).

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Do you mean reload the instance of the patch in EW installation centre?

Do you mean reload the instance of the patch in EW installation centre?

No, select Timpani in Opus on the left side, go to browse, find the patch and click replace. It will ask if you want to replace Timpani or replace all - just replace Timpani.

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Ok, thanks. I was playing around with outputs, but I will revert them as you suggest.

I will also add the volume and ccc11 to expression maps. Again, I had them on but it made no difference…

Anyway, I’ll try what you suggest. Thank you for your help. I’ll post back to say whether things have changed or not.

Nothing! I still have absolutely nothing for any of my percussion, tuned or untuned.

What I have surmised is that I have an electric signal going from my keyboard to Dorico, from Dorico to Opus, but not from Opus to speakers (in terms of percussion). I also have a signal going from Opus (using its inbuilt keyboard) to the speakers, thus producing a sound.

And that I don’t know how to fix.