Please see the screen shot and try to tell me why Dorico does this Stem flip at the end of tied notes when I have separated the two instruments (Sus. Cym. and Tambourine - which you can’t see in this shot) and told the program to put all stems up in Sus. Cymbal. It does this to me as well with Snare/Bass drum parts. The stem at the end of every snare roll flips down when I have set all stems up in the contextual menu.
Thanks for any advice.
If you mean in a kit where there is stem direction and voice input, that means up-stem voice x / down-stem voice x. It doesn’t mean always force stems up. For that, you’ll need to select the note you want to flip and hit ‘f’.
Hmmm. When I set the kit up I instructed the program to put the Cymbal stems up and the Tambourine stems down. Then, I went in again and separated the two staves, highlighted the cymbals notes throughout the whole flow, and then right-clicked the first note to bring up the contextual menu and further told the program to put all the stems in the cymbal part “Force Stem Up” and it is still giving me this, but only at the end of a tied roll.
Again, that is Up-stem Voice X and Down-stemp Voice X, not forcing stems in any particular direction.
Sorry, I can’t repeat the outcome of your select-all/force stems up.
Before:
… after context click Stem → Force Stem Up
When I highlight the whole Sus. Cym. part and right-click and bring up the contextual menu and select “Force Stems Up” it does not actually flip those stems as I think it should.
I get it, and it should flip the stems up as in my example, but I can’t replicate it. If you want to upload your project or just a few measures, I can take a look.
I’m guessing I can’t send just the Percussion 2 as a separate file, right? I would need to send the whole score? Let me do that here in a few minutes.
Thanks so much for all this help.
Here is a partial score to see if you can figured out what is going on here. This way I guess you can also go to Setup mode and take a look at the drum-kit to make sure I didn’t screw that up somehow.
Thanks
Crest of a Wave Sample.dorico (1.2 MB)
derAbgang,
Notice in the score the stems are correct. It is only when I open the Perc. 2 part that the stems go wacko at the end of ties.
Thanks.
I tried a variety of things and can’t get the stem up in the part. Perhaps @Christian_R can take a look. He’s a genius with these things.
I had no problems. Selected the first tied note in the percussion 2 part.
Select more (cmd-shift-A) twice and f for flip twice.
Jesper
Crest of a Wave Sample.dorico (1.0 MB)
Very strange … now I can do it too (with ‘f’) but context menu Stem → Force Stem Up does not. It’s probably a misunderstanding of ‘f’ and Force Stem Up but at least ‘f’ works.
Yes, the flip feature does work. I guess my question remains, why does the “force stems up” in the contextual menu not work in Percussion kits nor does the stem direction feature within the drum kit?
To individually flip every note that is tied will be quite time consuming in larger pieces.
Thanks for these replies. No solution yet.
Gary
I already explained why this doesn’t do what you think it does. That setting is the voice setting (up-stem voice x, down-stem voice y) – it doesn’t mean force stems up or down.
But yes, the context menu to force stems up should work and I’m also confused why it doesn’t.
I think I understand the stem direction function within the drum kit better now.
Thank you derAbgang.
Here is an example of the magnitude of the stem issue in drum kits when “Force Stems Up” does not function. Notice the number of stems that must be manually adjusted in just this short Concert Band Percussion part.
Select the first one then Shift+Cmd/Ctl+A (Edit → Select More) then hit A again. They’ll all be selected and just hit ‘f’ until correct.
I’m not at the home computer right now and won’t be for about 8 hours or more, but under the kit setup, do you have drum set checked in the upper right hand corner?
If I remember correctly, if you have that checked, Dorico will apply stem directions regardless of other voices. If you don’t have it checked, Dorico will apply stem directions if multiple instruments exist in the same bar.
Just a thought,
Robby
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Robby,
No. Drum Set does not appear in the upper left corner of the drum kit setting.
Thanks for the thought.
dertAbgang,
I will try this.
Thank you.