Piano fingering on two voices

The Dorico manual seems to indicate that fingerings, in the case of several voices on a staff, only appear for the top voice, which is of course irritating if confirmed. In the example below, the pianist’s thumb must press B and C, i.e. two notes. The fingering is therefore 1,1,2,5. But it doesn’t work. Is there a trick?

You mean this?

I normally select the two voices separately.

Hi @Mute,
adding to @Alberto_Maria (Buon Anno!) suggestion: to put the fingerings on the fifth, click on the stem of the up-stem voice 1 (this will select both notes) before you add 2,5 in the popover.
Then click on the stem of the down-stem voice 1 (this will select both notes) and write 1,1 in the popover.

Here some more visualisation options/variations for this case:

Global setting to automatically follow the voice directions:

Show as duplicate:

Put one of them on the left of the notehead (not sure if this looks good, but is a possibility):

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I’ve done it, though, and it doesn’t work here.

Happy New Year! Ok, I tried that and it didn’t work. It must be in the options. I’ll take a closer look. Thank you so much!

Okay, everything’s working fine now. I’ve modified the options to place the fingerings on each corresponding voice. As for the rest, I don’t know what I was or wasn’t doing! Fatigue, no doubt. Anyway, thanks for this very detailed explanation.

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Do you have a link to the page in the manual where you saw this indicated?

In French, in the second point of the note:

" * Quand vous sélectionnez des notes dans plusieurs voix, les doigtés sont uniquement insérés dans la voix du haut.".

In English :

“If you select notes in multiple voices, fingerings are only input into the top voice.”

Indeed, it clearly says what Mute has understood… :person_shrugging:

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Thank you - what that means is, if your current selection includes multiple voices, fingerings only go into the top voice.

However, that doesn’t prevent you selecting just a note/some notes in the second voice and inputting fingerings into that.

Ie you can input fingerings into any voice, just one voice “stream” at a time.

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Hello Lillie,

Indeed, it means what it says. But what’s missing from the manual text is what you explain next. Because this note, left alone, is confusing (as I was confused). With the addition of your explanation, it would be crystal clear for everyone.

That’s why I wrote:

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Letting @Lillie_Harris decide, of course, if the addition will be done, may I add that that line of text maybe “implicitly contains the answer” on how to add fingerings in multiple voices?:

One way of interpreting that line:
If you select notes in multiple voices, fingerings are only input into the top voice = don’t select multiple voices = input fingering selecting on voice at a time

(I agree that it would be ideally nice to have every explanation containing explicitly the different cases/opposite action behaviour. But sometimes those cases are deducible from the text, and the Manual would be even longer if every case would be written down… Just my humble opinion.)

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Yes, of course. I don’t know why it didn’t work yesterday. A spider in my head, no doubt.

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If the whole manual were implicit, where would we be? I say this cordially. I think it’s better to say: go straight on, than to say: don’t go left or right (even if implicitly it means: straight on). But, as you say, let’s leave that to Lillie.

p.s. I’d like to add here that having a manual in French (or other languages) adds a lot of value to Steinberg’s products. Steinberg, don’t ever abandon this very honourable tradition!

Don’t say so @Mute! We all have spiders in our heads sometimes, and not always during the holidays :wink:

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