I have difficulties in explaining this in understandable English: We have a 4 bar repeat and want the note on 4 and to keep playing when repeating. I cannot even find a way to notate it with a slur. I am sure there is a solution to this, I probably just don’t know how to do it. In the attached example you might see what I mean: I would like the G to keep playing, when I repeat. And I would like to have a slur to indicate it - not the slur with an arrow, which is the only thing I can come up with.
Best,
Peter
Hi @Danstrup, and welcome back!
To answer completely we should know what happens from bar 5…
Anyway 
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For the playback:
you can prolong the last eight note in the key editor, in Played Durations mode, dragging the note to the necessary length. (Probably @johnkprice could tell us the calculations needed to obtain the exact end offsets value. I “hear”-balled it )
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For the visualisation:
you can then add a laissez vibrer tie, to visually mimic an hold tie (while our previous adjustment will take care of the playback, and you can see in the properties the resulting playback offsets of our manual dragging/prolonging of the note). You can of course edit the length of the lv tie in Engrave mode:
Here the playback result:
Dorico file example:
lv tie and manual played duration.dorico (1.3 MB)
Add-on: if for the continuation (from bar 5) the lenght of the tied note is different, there are workarounds using a secondary voice with a different “dragging”, and suppressing the playback of the original voice for the last repetition…)
One way to extend the played duration of a note is to set its Playback end offset property. This offset is measured in ticks, and Dorico uses 480 ticks per quarter note. To make the played duration of the eighth note at the end of the repeated section equal the notated duration of the tied note entering the repeated section, the playback end offset of the eighth note should be set to 4 × 480 = 1920. However, the played duration of a normal note is slightly less than its notated duration, and the amount of the reduction depends on the virtual instrument being used. For instruments bundled with Dorico, the playback end offset should be reduced by 5% of 480 to yield 1920 - 24 = 1896. For instruments in NotePerformer, the playback end offset should be reduced by 15% of 480 to yield 1920 - 72 = 1848.
Thanks a lot, Christian. Unfortunately, I cannot just drag the note longer, because in bar 5 it continues from beat one. In my attached example I have added ‘1st time only’ as in this case the 4 bars in A are repeated and they are followed by bar 5 (B). But with the laissez vibrer tie I have at least solved the graphic problem. Now I will study John’s answer - hoping I can learn from that.
Best, Peter
Sorry: wrong attached file. It should be like this
Peter
It would be incorrect to give the eighth note at the end of the repeated section a laissez vibrer tie if it is not tied to the first note after the repeated section. In this case, it would be better to duplicate the repeated section and avoid the use of repeat barlines.
Thank you, John. Where do I make these changes in setting of the tics? And only for this note…
Best, Peter
Well, I don’t know if it is incorrect. Writing ‘1st time only’ in a repetition seems to be quite common. But it is not the intension of ‘laissez vibrer’ I guess? Clearly, I could duplicate and make 1st and 2nd ending, but I wouldn’t do it if I was writing in hand.
Best, Peter
Hi @Danstrup, as I wrote in my first reply there are workarounds.
Here two examples of what you can do:
A:
If you want to use the normal Repeat:
(1) Suppress the playback for the fake tied note for the second pass only (and set its end offset as suggested by @johnkprice[thank you John!], or drag it in key editor as I showed in my previous post).
Write a duplicate note in a second voice and suppress its playback for the first pass only, then remove rests and hide the stem, then add the desired lv ties, parentheses, explanatory text (2) :
A - screenshots (click to expand)
Here the properties for the two voices:
Here the visualisation in key editor/played durations:
B:
You can alternatively use Repeat Endings (if you don’t want to write the passage without repetitions, as suggested by @johnkprice). You just need to add a bar, then set the Repeat Endings, suppress the playback for the note on 2nd repeat and set you lv ties:
B - screenshots (click to expand)
Here the playback for both possibilities:
A
B
And the Dorico file example:
lv tie and manual played duration-V2.dorico (1.4 MB)
Thanks a lot, I’ll try that.
Best, Peter
