Please help me delete unwanted rests in condensed senza misura part!

In this senza misura section, I want the rests to disappear from view. I used “remove rests” in write mode/galley view, but they appear when condensed in page view. I have searched online for a solution, which seems to be to set the opacity to 0%. But I can’t select them in page view because they are in a condensed part! I’d try selecting them in galley view, but since they are added by condensing, they aren’t there to edit!

I’d turn off condensing, but it happens on enough staves that there isn’t enough vertical space.

Also happy for workarounds; just need them to go away! Thanks.

Hi @Nuggethead, you can set the Alpha/Opacity of the rests selecting them in Engrave mode. From Dorico 6.2 the Color properties of condensed music will be maintained.

[Edit: sorry, I didn’t see that you are using D5.]

I’m using Dorico 5. I cannot select any rests in Engrave mode.

Are you able to post the file here? If you are worried about sharing the complete project, save a copy of it with a different name and then, in the copy, delete everything except this problematic section. Save it and post it here. Even though I use Dorico 6.2, I still have Dorico 5 on my computer and am willing, as I am sure quite a few others are, to have a look at it and see if a solution can be found.

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Definitely don’t feel up for sharing the whole thing, it being a commissioned work, but I’ve scrubbed this one clean. I’d like most of the rests to go away, except where the lines indicate “repeat ad lib. including rest.” In these places, I want just one single quarter rest, and then nothing else.

I inserted a Condensing Change to Hide rests for inactive players. This eliminated a few whole-measure rests, but not the other ones.

I don’t mind a lengthy workaround; it’s a large piece but there are only 2 pages like this.

sm rests.dorico (2.8 MB)

Ideally, the rests circled in red would go away. The blue arrow points to an example where I want the rest to stay.

Hi @Nuggethead.
This is a particularly tricky problem.
The only thing I have found which might work (emphasis on the “might”, and no guarantees given whatever) is as follows.

  1. Turn Condensing off
  2. In Write mode, at the start of the second page, select the first note in the two bassoon staves and press R (to repeat) twice. This will fill up the gap between the note selected and the second original note (just after the tick barline). I suppose I was lucky that that was exactly the number of beats occupied by the recalcitrant rest. When trying it at other locations, it might be necessary to alter note values so as to not overwrite the following notes. As dots on dotted notes can not be hidden, use shorter note values to fill up the gap where necessary.
  3. Go into Engrave mode, select the notes just added and hide noteheads, stems and ledger lines in Properties > Notes and Rests.
  4. Turn on Condensing and do the same - Properties in Condensing can be set differently than when non-Condensed.
    The hidden notes will show up as lightly shaded (so that you know that they are there), but they will not print.
  5. Turn on Condensing to see if the notes have been hidden and the rests are no longer there.
  6. If that was successful, try it on other staves. If there are no notes to repeat, insert a note and repeat it until the gap is filled (adjusting note values where necessary). Then hide them as in step 3 and delete the note you inserted where the rest was.

Caveat - this will probably affect the note spacing.

Good luck!

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Magical! It works brilliantly. You are a mensch. If you were local, I’d buy you a beer! Thank you!