create new song insert Groove Agent one into instrument track load a kit play a simple kick / hat / snare pattern duplicate track Result the two tracks clearly play out of sync in a somewhat random pattern. Proove: polarity reverse one of the tracks. Result: Non silence. I call serious bug:) Tri…

Guess what - I just tested @ 96 kHz and here it reacts just like Sturgeon descripes. There’s definately something samplerate related going on here! Time to call the bug? Steinberg?

Yes ! Please try it @96kHz using the Honey Bee kit (short tight closed hat makes it more apparent), If you don’t hear it right away, keep listening, sometimes it can take a minute or more. There is something strange going on !

I can confirm the behaviour but sadly maybe not the bug (but it could still be a bug). Here’s why. After I compared two drum tracks I created a piano track, duplicated it and then put one track reverse phase. Result = silence, as you would expect. But being a little curious and remembering somethin…

@ Conman: again: the entire track is duplicated - thus a 1:1 copy of the original. There is absolutely no operator error possible here. All we do is right click the first track and chose “duplicate track”. There’s no panning, no volume, no inserts, no nothing is changed. There’s clearly something go…

I think its worse than that. Try this; Create a new project @96kHz , Set locators to cycle round 4 bars. Create an instrument track with Groove Agent on it, select a kit (Honey Bee is a good example). Double click between locators to create a blank part. Open part, turn snap on, and quantise va…

I did duplicate an entire track, I mean what else could I do? But I did see what you are on about. I just threw in an observation of my own. Not trying to disprove it but trying to see what is causing it in the case of C6. And I never assumed operator error, just investigating the possibility of may…

Conman: no worries, I just tried to make clear that human error was out of the eqation:) And to make it even more clear I just did another test: blank GA1 with my own mono sample loaded as the only thing. Bang: same result. Something’s rotten in the state of GA1. [:mrgreen:]

Did you try my test above Lasso? Either way, you are right; “Something’s rotten in the state of GA1”

Yes, I did, but it didn’t behave as bad as you describe - it stayed tight enough for me to not notice anything after 10 minuttes. However, as soon as the track is duplicated the timing issues become quite apparent.

Halion 1 drums work ok in this respect. The only thing I can think of to look at is whether either the samples themselves or the FX / filters applied within GA itself may give these effects by continually offsetting the samples so that no two ever sound quite the same. In case you’re wondering why …

[possible BUG]: Groove Agent One drifts in timing

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Lasso July 30, 2011, 11:31pm 42

maybe this?