Hi All,
I obviously made some stupid mistake and cannot figure out how to get back to normal.
I wanted to make a diminished chord symbol and couldn’t firgure out how because all entries from me were changed to minor instead of diminished. Without knowing what I do and assuming this should be an easy one I tried to change something in the chord symbols tab in the library menu- not via engraving options. With try and error I managed to get the words “dim” behind my chord instead of m or mi. But now everytime I want to insert a minor chord it always shows me “dim” on a new project!?! I have tried evertything to change that without success. Even reverted every single chord but it doesn’t apply to a new project. I know I should have rtfm and stuff but really didn’t expect to have such a problem to make a diminished symbol. Somehow I changed something unknowing globally that I can’t revert.
Thank you so much for help!
Sorry to hear you’ve got yourself into a pickle, Markus. If you do Help > Create Diagnostic Report and attach the resulting zip file here, that will allow me to see what’s gone on. The zip file includes your userlibrary.xml file, which will be where your accidentally-saved default appearance will be lurking. I should be able to inspect that file and find the thing that needs removing.
Dorico Diagnostics.zip (3.3 MB)
Daniel this is the one thing where Dorico and everything related is really out standing:
I report a mistake and you help instantly. Nothing I am accustomed to with other companies.
Since I recently I have to work more in notation than before I really enjoy your software and it’s implementation in Cubase!
Thank you so much for this.
Markus
Thanks for providing your diagnostics. I’ve installed your userlibrary.xml file and I can see in Library > Chord Symbols that you have defined custom appearances for simple minor triads on every root, but when I enter e.g. “Cdim”, I get “Cm(b5)”, which is what I would expect based on my engraving options. What are you seeing when you enter “Cdim”?
I get C with a little circle when I insert Cdim which is what I set as default after visiting the engraving options chord symbols menu. Unfortunatly the much more used minor chords don’t seem to be effected by the changes and still think they should insert “dim” instead of “m”. Thats why I made the custom appearences for every root since changing one didn’t effect others. I know this must be stupid but I didn’t see another way to do it.
Markus, I’d like to help!
What symbol would you like to see exactly for diminished chords and which one for minor chords, all assuming simple triads?
Beste Grüße,
Benji
Sorry, Markus, I’m afraid I’m still missing something here. Which specific minor chords are you talking about? Are you saying that you want (say) “A minor” to appear as “Adim” rather than “Am”?
No the contrary.
The thing is: If I insert into the Q popover e.g. Am I want to appear it of course as Am. Instead it does appear as Adim. This is what I cannot change back.
It happened because I wanted to change the appearance of one chord to Adim in one leadsheet and obviously choosed the wrong path to do so and now everytime I insert Am or whatever minor chord it shows me Adim…
And just to add the obvious: I f I want an Am7 I want to see Am7. Because this also changed somehow.
If you select all the changed items on the left in Single & Project and hit “Reset”, does that help?
Likely need to do it one by one…
My lists aren’t showing anything, because I have not changed anything, but your window should have plenty of items!
B.
Hi Benji, thanks for trying to help. In the meantime I figured how to change the appearance I need. The problem now is that something I wanted to change in the past caused a default change that I cannot change back.
I ll check. But my button doesn’t say “reset to factory settings” but “reset to saved default”
I tried that of course but had no real success. But maybe I didn’t go through all the changed items respectively did the right thing in this regard which is exactly what I’m still not shure about…
Markus, this is very odd: even with your saved engraving options and your user library, I am still unable to reproduce the problem you report.
Can you try something for me? Quit Dorico altogether, and in the Finder, go to ~/Library/Application Support/Steinberg/Dorico 5. You should see both engravingoptions.xml and userlibrary.xml in that location. Move those files to your desktop temporarily, so they’re no longer included in Dorico’s application data folder.
Now run Dorico again, start a new project, and create an Am chord symbol. Does it appear as you expect?
Will try soon. Have to do some teaching work right now. Thanks for the help you all! Will report in the evening.
Ok the good old restart did the trick after all. Should have done this right away. Something in the program seemed to refuse to change on the fly.
Fortunately I didn’t have to go through more hassel. I still don’t fully understand how this all works but will hopefully in the future after a bit more experience with the program and some tutorials.
Again many thanks for all your help.