Hello anyone!
I’m having difficulty with a new document. In previous documents, I’ve been able to add flows and they always start with the 1st page template, mentioning the composer, lyricist etc., but now for some reason, in the second flow, it’s using the 1st page template for every page. I’ve not changed any of the settings in Layout. It’s kind of frustrating. If someone might please enlighten me on what I’m doing wrong, I’d really appreciate it. THanks in advance, Matthew (p.s. please see attached jpgs)
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Hello, pls find attached the doc. If you might please and kindly tell me how I may fix it myself, I’d greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Matthew
Music For Women s Voices.dorico (1.0 MB)
All of the page overrides you have in Engrave mode (red triangles in Pages panel) are causing Dorico not to be able to wire up the correct page templates.
If you can remove overrides from most of those pages, and then set “Use First page template” to “Any flow starting at top of page”, I think you’ll get closer to what you want.
Some of the overrides are caused by manually adding the poet’s name in the lyricist box at the start of each flow. If you edit the First page template and change the projectLyricist token to flowLyricist, then Dorico will automatically pick up the name from the Project Info dialog.
For the overrides where you have added a text frame for the duration at the end of the flow, you might consider adding that as staff text instead, and then hiding it in the piano layout. (You can also solve this using additional page templates, but it gets a little complicated because you’d need different templates with the frame at different vertical positions.)
For your title, blank, and text pages, it’s generally a better idea to create page templates for those (one template for each type) and then use page template changes rather than inserting blank pages (which come with page overrides).
Page overrides aren’t necessarily evil, but it’s a good idea to avoid them when possible, and to use them only at the end of your layout process.
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Hi @JCMeezer, adding to the useful suggestions by @asherber, I could suggest as an alternative method (as it seems you just need to indicate a different Lyricist for each song) to use a customised Flow Heading template for that. You just need to edit, in Engrave Mode the Flow Headings template, adding the desired text frames for the Flow Lyricist token (and the Flow Composer token if you want).
I edited your file a little bit with this alternative method and attach here, if this can be of some help to see what the possibilities are. I removed the Page Overrides from page 7 onwards, to avoid template following issues. Then I edited the default Flow Headings template (double clicking on it):
Dorico file:
Music For Women s Voices-edited Flow Headings template.dorico (1.5 MB)
Here another alternative for the first page of music: I edited the first page template putting the composer name under the title (and deleting the project composer token from the right, but leaving the composer name in each flow heading). Maybe you like it… :
Result:
Dorico file2:
Music For Women s Voices-edited Flow Headings template & first page template with composer under title.dorico (1.5 MB)
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Hi Christian_R, Thank you very much for your suggestions, I really appreciate it. I used some of your suggestions and some of asherber, to re-create what you suggested. I’m used to using FINALE, where you just pile one piece of graphics on top of another. It seems that, at times, Dorico is a little like high level programming. I admire your expertise. Thanks again, Matthew
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Hi asherber, Thank you very much for your suggestions, I really appreciate it. I used some of your suggestions and some of Christian_R, to re-create what you suggested. I’m used to using FINALE, where you can just pile one piece of graphics on top of another. It seems that Dorico is a little like high level programming. I admire your expertise. Thanks again, Matthew
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