Project starts playing over itself (a la 'row your boat')

Hi team,

I have a project that when pressing play, will start playing for about 9 measures, and then you can clearly hear it starting to play from the first measure ON TOP OF the already playing music…

Could you help with this?

Happy to share the file with Steinberg troubleshooting team to see if you can duplicate the issue.

Cheers,
Greg

You have most likely manually removed a staff that previously contained notes.

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Thanks Janus,

And I would find out how to do undo this by…

Add the staves back. Delete the notes, then remove the staves.

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This is a previously saved file from months ago that I just reopened. I would have no idea what staves were inadvertently deleted. Is there a history folder of some sort to find out?

Or is it ‘Time Machine’ time :smiley:

Can you not work it out from the wrong notes?
Failing that, just work through the score adding a staff above every (solo) player, and see what appears.

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I think you’ve misunderstood my initial request.

I can see the score is perfect, and I have an audio recording taken from this very score that sounds perfect. There is some sort of Dorico glitch that is causing the whole piece (every single instrument) to start playing from the beginning a second time.

And just in case, I have looked at the play page and there are no hidden ‘second voices’ playing underneath that sometime mess with a mix.

Sorry I hope that doesn’t sound rude but its not a case of a few accidentally pasted wrong notes.

Cheers

Galley View should show you any additional hidden staves.

I presume you’ve quit and restarted Dorico?

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Hi there,

I just checked Galley view - it looks identical to the main score.

I’ve quit, restarted and used Dorico on multiple other projects since working on this file - it’s the only one that has this issue.

I would be interested to see if the issue can be replicated on another computer, but it’s the only one I have.

If you want to PM it to me, I’ll happily take a look; discretion guaranteed!

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I have just created a new flow and copy/pasted the piece into the new flow - the problem does not occur when playing the second flow…

Hi Ben,

I’m embarrassed to say I have no idea how to PM on the forum.
Can you PM me and I can reply??

Depending on how big the score is, you can go to Play mode, enable independent voice playback and see if another region appears with MIDI data. That will tell you which player to +add staff to. If there is no MIDI region after enabling IVP, just disable it and move to next player.

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I have just gone through and checked. Not the case. Also, I’m sure if it was, the problem would repeat in the second flow, but it doesn’t

I think, looking at my status, I’m not at trust level 1 yet so PMs aren’t possible. I can email it to your website email address?

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I’ve looked at the file. As far as I can tell, it plays back without any anomalies.

Could it be the video that’s playing back?

Are the two Flows identical?

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Hmm… So maybe the video is playing back with sound now because I probably saved the audio to the video file, which originally was without sound… You might just be right! I’m eating dinner now, but I’ll check later on. Thanks

(Probably now OT)
It is perfectly possible to add a staff, add notes to it, remove that staff and the notes still play, with no indication in galley view…
unseen.dorico (497.1 KB)

(You can recover the notes by adding a staff above)

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Hello to all, after confirmation with @benwiggy I can confirm that this was my own silly fault but a good lesson for everyone:

When I first posted the absolutely first thing everyone should have asked was:
“Is there a video attached - and does it have sound?”

I’m just kidding, but when i wrote the original piece it was to a video with no soundtrack.

However, I seem to have succeeded to save the music TO THAT VIDEO. So now it plays the music from Dorico and shortly later the same music starts playing from the video! :stuck_out_tongue:

Sorry for what might have seemed like a waste of time to some, but I actually learned something from every single suggestion made today, and hopefully someone else in the future can avoid the same mistake!

Cheers,
Greg

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