Thanks for looking at this. The reason I put the margins so small (2mm) is because my understand is that there can’t be any text outside of the margins. Am I wrong about that?
Yeah, nothing can be outside the margins. This can be a bummer if you need a full page graphic for a title page or something. The way the Page Templates are set up you could certainly put all margins (in Layout Options) at 0, and then use the Text and Music frame settings in the template to inset those frames to have the appearance of margins. I’ve toyed with doing that myself. You’d need to give very careful consideration to the Constraint locks and frame position settings though.
For example, on your Default Part template, you used all 4 constraint locks on some headers and none at all on others at whatever size you created it, so they end up being really fixed to that size. As a result, when viewed at Letter size, all your headers are missing in the image below.
If I switch the page size to Tabloid, then they appear:
If you had locked the frame containing the Layout Name token to a certain distance from the left and top, then it would have always been positioned correctly no matter what the page size. (You’ll probably want to change the Vertical Alignment to Top too. I sort of hate that Dorico defaults to Center and would welcome an option to default to Top as that’s what I almost always want.)
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Thanks – this is getting me closer to where I need to be! (Whenever I resort to the forums, it’s always a matter of I don’t know what I don’t know…) I haven’t learned about constraint locks, etc. And yes, coming from Finale, I am used to setting up everything in distance from the edges of the page (top left right bottom, whichever the case may be).
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Except that @johnkprice has identified a loophole. You can position a frame partially or completely outside the margins if you have all 4 constraint padlocks on and set the L/R/T/B values in the Properties panel or by selecting a handle and using the usual modifier keys to move it, no dragging allowed.
This basically works by setting values that invert the frame, so that what appears to be the left side is actually the right side. Text can be entered inside normally. Works perfectly fine until you try to drag the frame, at which point Dorico says, “Hey, you can’t do that!” and snaps it back to the margin.
See this post and the ones that follow.
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More of a black hole.
Jesper
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Okay I’m on the road to recovery! I’m figuring out how to set the margins properly and how to use constraint locks. Is there a way to copy and paste the features of the template of a part to apply to a full score? Or do they need to be done separately?
Hey thank you all so much for your help! This taught me a lot.
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