Punching Midi In & Out on the Fly in Cubase 14

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Can someone give me some guidance on how to Punch Midi IN and Out in Cubase 14 on the Fly? Like we do with Audio.

Right now if I record a midi instrument, lets say a piano, and I need to go back and just Punch In a quick correction I can still hear the original track at the punch in point that I am trying to correct which makes it difficult as you hear both me playing the correct part and the part that is wrong.

In addition after the punch out a number of midi notes (information) prior and after the punch in range are gone.

Does midi punch in on the fly not work the same as when punching in audio corrections?

I have tried a number of different Midi Record Mode combinations but I get the same result…?

Thanks in Advance,
Louis

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Hi,

How does your MIDI Recording Modes setting look like, please?

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Currently it is set up as follows:

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But I have tried a number of different options and still the same thing happens.

Thanks in Advance,
Louis

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Martin,

I have also tried the following set ups and still the same result:

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Thanks,
Louis

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Hi,

As this is the Linear Recording, the Replace mode should be the one.

It works on my side with the replace mode. I can hear the audio of the MIDI data coming from the instrument before the Punch In (if I play something already with it, I can hear it, but it’s not recorded), then Cubase reaches the Punch In, I can hear the data I’m plaing (and they are recorded); then Cubase reaches the Punch Out, it jumps out of the recording and I can hear the original signal.

Did you press Play (not Record) while recording with Punch In/Out? Do you have the Punch In/Out linked to the locators or are they separated?

This is the settings, which works for me:

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I fear that is because internally Cubase creates a (temporary) new part to store the newly played MIDI. And when creating a part it starts on a full bar. So Cubase replaces everything from the punch in point but starting at the full bar before the punch in point.
A somewhat unfortunate design.
The workaround would be to switch the primary time format to “seconds” instead of bars+beats for the recording. Then it works nicely. By default the . key switches the format.

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Hey Johnny & Martin,

Thanks for the guidance on this.

Johnny that primary time format switch makes it better…but it still is not seamless. For example if I play a sustained note that I didn’t hold long enough and I go back in to punch in to make it longer like you can do with audio…it doesnt really work.

Is this the limitation of Cubase or is it a Midi limitation in comparison to Audio?

Once again thanks so much for your suggestions and guidance.

Louis

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It could be a MIDI limitation.
Sustain, if you have an on/off pedal, consists of two midi events: sustain=127 (on) and sustain=0 (off)
Unlike audio the sustain on does not get sent continuously but only once and it remains on until a sustain off is sent.
It is probably best to correct this with the mouse after the recording.