I have two questions. The first I tried in the Facebook group, no answer at all. The second occurred now.
Q1; How can I do this in a Dorico drum staff (it is the last slash note that I don’t succeed with):
Trying to add the slash as part of the triplet with “Y” (or “B”) just moves the cursor to next bar. Writing another note and change the notehead can be done, but for some reason “Alt-up/down arrow” omits the middle line - it has always been like this (why?) - so I haven’t been able to place the slashed note on the middle line.
My kit definition looks like this::
Since I did not succeed with what I wanted, I tried to be more specific, writing regular notes instead of the slashed note. Then I got double triplet markings.
Q2: Can I get rid of the upper one?
I have come across this behaviour in the last week.
I didn’t end up needing to, but I considered adding a random percussion instrument to the kit on the middle line and then changing the notehead manually via Edit Noteheads (rather than just creating a slash voice). My thinking was that it would behave as any other instrument would.
How do you add something to the middle line in this case? In insert mode I can select the middle line but pressing “Y” make the cursor jump to the next measure (which does not happen with the cursor to any other line).
Also tried to enter a note on another line and change notehead, but when trying to change the “pitch” to the middle line it is omitted - I can’t reach it! This is how it has always been and I have always wondered why, but since I have earlier been able to place the cursor on the middle line and enter notes there directly this has not really been a problem, more of a confusion. Now it is a problem.
Also I tried to enter directly by clicking with the mouse
but this only works for the other lines, not the middle.
We would need to see the Dorico file (perhaps just an excerpt of a couple of measures containing these notes) in order to advise you about this; so much depends on how you have set up the staff and what instrument(s) it represents.
As with pitched instruments, slash voices are separate to non-slash voices.
The reason you can’t Alt-up or down a note within a triplet from e.g. a snare or tom to a middle-line slash, is that the tuplet does not exist in the slash voice. Even if you could move the note to the slash voice, it wouldn’t beam to the previous non-slash notes.
The workaround, as @DanielMuzMurray has already suggested, is to add a non slashed instrument to the middle line of the kit, with the same voice in the kit editor as the Toms, then override its notehead (either within the kit editor or on the page).
Ok I missed that the advice was to add to the middle line of the kit, so now I tried that. However I then get another problem, how to make it part of the beam?
Also, alt-up/down does not work at all for the middle line (with only a “slash” instrument as per the kit definition I gave above). Thus the behaviour of omitting this line with alt-up/down occurs for any note value, not only tuplets.
When I said “the same voice as the toms”, I meant the same voice as the toms. Your screenshot would suggest that in the kit editor the toms are in downstem voice 1 and the middle line instrument is in upstem voice 1.
The best place to fix it is in the kit editor, though you do have the option of placing a note on the staff, right-clicking > Percussion > and changing the voice.
Are those maybe left over from an empty tuplet you added earlier, while experimenting? I would have thought that deleting the upstem triplet itself (whose bracket you may earlier have hidden) would get rid of the rests.
Yep something like that. I tried to clear the measure and enter the triplets again. When the last one - the one that should be the slash - was entered I first entered on the upper tom line. Alt-down down first one step added a second triplet that did not disappear when returning to the same position as it was entered. It did not disappear no matter what “pitch” that was selected after. Actually the second triplet did not go away even if the entire “original” triplet was deleted.
Solution was to enter on the right line directly, then it worked.
Alt-up/down does not really work great in drum staves. That’s a pity, it is a practical shortcut to make adjustments…
