Hello,
to have a good workflow within my team, I need to set variables (5 digits or letters or a mixture of digits and letters) in my marker-names.
So the marker (in my case region marker but this is not fixed) should have a name as follows: “word1/word2/xyz12” and its specific information should be written in the commentary.
The problem is: when I work with “word1/word2/@Random5@” the 5 random digits created differ between the in- and the out-marker, so the loop starts with in-marker=“word1/word2/12345” while the out-marker=“word1/word2/82324”.
Is there something I am missing with the variables like “@Random5@”? Or is there another way how I can easily get this problem solved?
Thanks in advance and all the best!
Simon
Each time @Random5@ is invoked, a new value is created. Since you are using it for two markers, you get what you describe.
Do you really need the name for the end marker too?
Thank you for your fast reply.
In our project we are converting the markers from wavelab via XML for using them in “label studio” and afterwards converting them back into wavelab. We had to program some workarounds in a XML-converter, so that the start- and end-markers are recognized as depending pairs. Therefor the 5 digits/letters telling “labelstudio” that the two markers work as a pair (or better “loop”).
So unfortunately they have to be the same for each pair of markers.
I see. You are right, this would make sense. I note this to fix it in a future update.
Thank you, this would be highly appreciated!
All the best!
Hi,
as I try do do some workarounds concerning the markers, there are new questions coming up:
Is there a possibility to give a marker an exact name, so when I create a marker it is created on the highighted area and already has a name (of course all markers of the same type would have the same name). I first thought this would be the function “default marker name”. But if I create a default marker name, it does not do what I expect it to do. And the manual is not helping either in this case. It seems I do not undestand the concept behind “default marker name”
It would be of great help, if I could use a shortcut to create a pair of markers and name it in one step. Or at least open up a naming dialogue when creating a marker, so that I could create a macro to fill out the text-box for the name
In the batch renaming for the markers, I miss the option to copy/paste the content or part of the content of the marker name to the commentary-field of the same marker. Or any other possibility to batch rename the commentary field. Is there a possibility to do so which I did not see?
Thanks in advance and all the best!
Simon
The default name feature works with this procedure.
I agree. Maybe in a future version.
Why would you need that?
Thank you for your fast reply and the help!
Now I understand the usage of the default markername within the “create Marker” function. This “create marker”-feature together with the marker name would have been my goto-tool in the moment, but unfortunately it is only capable of creating either start- or end-markers, not two markers for a region with one “click”.
The batch utility is very powerful and I now have to use it quite often, as my workflow with markers is not very straightforward in the moment. As we use categories for our marker names and write down the details of the marker in the comment there are many fields to fill out. I see no way to do macros on that. If I could write the comment in the markers name and get this info into the comment box via batch and afterwards use the batch to rename the markers in relation to the marker-type, it could fasten my workflow.
Perhabs “miss” was not the right word, as maybe I am the only person who would need this feature. But it would be more than a “nice to have” for me 
I hope you can get the a) possibility to create a marker pair and name it with a shortcut and the b) exact @randomxy@ with start- and endmarker in a future update. For me these two functions would be enormous time savers.
Thank you very much and best regards!
Simon
Could you give a concrete example of a marker name and marker comment to illustrate your point?
Hi @PG1, thanks again for your fast reply.
I hope I am not exaggerating with my following answer:
These are examples of markers that are combined to the audiofile I am working on.
The markers are generated by colleagues in "label studio" and converted to a XML-File.
To achieve a fluent import export between Wavelab and label-studio, the marker-pairs have a identical set of 5 digits/letters in their name.
The name is broken down in three parts: keyword|group|5digits.
If the keyword is called "Kommentar", there is an information in the comment field.
These informations are short and repetitive and could be saved in text-macros.
START-MARKER:
<Marker>
<Name>Kommentar|Allgemeines|ppqN9</Name>
<Position> 13 mn 29 s 221 ms</Position>
<SamplePos>38842606</SamplePos>
<RegionLength> 1 s 44 ms</RegionLength>
<Type>Bereichsanfang</Type>
<TypeCode>11</TypeCode>
<Comment>starke Tonveränderung </Comment>
</Marker>
END-MARKER:
<Marker>
<Name>Kommentar|Allgemeines|ppqN9</Name>
<Position> 13 mn 30 s 265 ms</Position>
<SamplePos>38892713</SamplePos>
<RegionLength/>
<Type>Bereichsende</Type>
<TypeCode>12</TypeCode>
<Comment/>
</Marker>
This defines a marker-pair (both have the same 5-digit-name "ppqN9), only the start-marker has the comment saved.
Other markers look like this:
<Name>Zwischenrufe „Bravo“|Publikumsreaktion|lvtb3</Name> (without comment)
or
<Name>lebhafter Beifall|Publikumsreaktion|Rl27t</Name> (without comment)
The markers I produce within wavelab must have the same structure.
I use the groups "Audiobearbeitung" and "technischer Hinweis" which in many cases also need comment fields:
<Name>Clipping korrigiert|Audiobearbeitung|kd8e6<Name>
or
<Name>Kommentar|technischer Hinweis|df78s<Name> (with comments, like "Klopfen auf Mikrofon", "fehlender Inhalt", etc.)
If it would be possible to transfer the text from the name-field to the comment box,
I could (also only if possible) create a marker-pair via a shortcut and fill in a comment as a name via a macro.
This could be achieved within seconds using a dedicated (keyboard-)device and macros.
My workflow would then be:
- shortcut to open dedicated marker-type (Loop).
- Makro to fill in the comment.
At the end of the restoration process:
- copy all marker-names to comment
- rename all dedicated markers (loop) to: <Name>Kommentar|technischer Hinweis|@random5@<Name>
As there are many marker types in wavelab, this might work with the different marker types I have to create
When all is done I can transfer all marker-types to region-markers and export the XML for my colleagues.
The XML then has their (old) and my (new) markers together.
I hope this explanation was clear and helped you to understand my challenges.
Thanks and all the best
Simon
I am sorry for the layout-mess!
As I have written the XML-Codes used for my markers I had to change the layout type, to make them visible.
If this is too stressful to read, I can redo my message without those XML-informations.
Best
Simon