Question regarding large analogue mixers.

[shadowfax]

@dr

@shadowfax

Interesting point, my take on it is that lots of excellent music was produced in the past on gear that technically is not as good as what is available today but the music still sounds good and is still used on ads and in movies…

music has been produced without ANY modern technology - skill and talent are always more important. What we are all trying to do (?) is to get the ‘best’* solution for our own working environment.

*best can mean anything - depending on budget and personal preferences.

Your not wrong my friend…

[Vital_Few]

@shadowfax

@dr

Ignoring the ergonomics - (I think using an old analog mixer is better ), you have to ask the question…is the behringer stuff bringing extra audio quality ?. Is the extra AD/DA and internal signal processing ‘improving’ the sound. Are the internal FX ‘better’ than what you have in your DAW ?

That’s a personal decision of course.

Interesting point, my take on it is that lots of excellent music was produced in the past on gear that technically is not as good as what is available today but the music still sounds good and is still used on ads and in movies…

Well, back the old days, the budgets were different than today. Many of the great albums are mixed on high-end consoles like Foscusrite, SSL, Harrison, Calrec, Neve etc. The high-end outboard created in the 80’s is legendary and known for its quality components and pretty heavy price tags. Just take a look what the price was for an Emulator II or the PPG Wave 2,3.
Yes, time is changing and there is some element of “magic” to all the old gear. But compared to the workflow there is to a DAW today, then I would never go back. A great soundcard, some reliable speakers and some good treatment to your room - then you have a great setup.
If you would spend some money on something console like, then I would recommend the Yamaha Nuage.

[Alex54]

@Vital Few

@shadowfax

@dr

Ignoring the ergonomics - (I think using an old analog mixer is better ), you have to ask the question…is the behringer stuff bringing extra audio quality ?. Is the extra AD/DA and internal signal processing ‘improving’ the sound. Are the internal FX ‘better’ than what you have in your DAW ?

That’s a personal decision of course.

Interesting point, my take on it is that lots of excellent music was produced in the past on gear that technically is not as good as what is available today but the music still sounds good and is still used on ads and in movies…

Well, back the old days, the budgets were different than today. Many of the great albums are mixed on high-end consoles like Foscusrite, SSL, Harrison, Calrec, Neve etc. The high-end outboard created in the 80’s is legendary and known for its quality components and pretty heavy price tags. Just take a look what the price was for an Emulator II or the PPG Wave 2,3.
Yes, time is changing and there is some element of “magic” to all the old gear. But compared to the workflow there is to a DAW today, then I would never go back. A great soundcard, some reliable speakers and some good treatment to your room - then you have a great setup.
If you would spend some money on something console like, then I would recommend the Yamaha Nuage.

If you are looking for a good guide for sound cards I can recommend one. Even though it is in german you just easily translate it with any translation program. Just click here and you have a lot of commonly asked questions answered: https://www.technikhiwi.de/soundkarte-test/

You will also find a lot of other topics regarding audio, speakers and things you might need.

[shadowfax]

@Alex54

@Vital Few

@shadowfax

Interesting point, my take on it is that lots of excellent music was produced in the past on gear that technically is not as good as what is available today but the music still sounds good and is still used on ads and in movies…

Well, back the old days, the budgets were different than today. Many of the great albums are mixed on high-end consoles like Foscusrite, SSL, Harrison, Calrec, Neve etc. The high-end outboard created in the 80’s is legendary and known for its quality components and pretty heavy price tags. Just take a look what the price was for an Emulator II or the PPG Wave 2,3.
Yes, time is changing and there is some element of “magic” to all the old gear. But compared to the workflow there is to a DAW today, then I would never go back. A great soundcard, some reliable speakers and some good treatment to your room - then you have a great setup.
If you would spend some money on something console like, then I would recommend the Yamaha Nuage.

If you are looking for a good guide for sound cards I can recommend one. Even though it is in german you just easily translate it with any translation program. Just click here and you have a lot of commonly asked questions answered: https://www.technikhiwi.de/soundkarte-test/

You will also find a lot of other topics regarding audio, speakers and things you might need.

cheers mate.

[shadowfax]

Apparently this mixer

Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK Analog Mixer with USB at Gear4music

enables the routing of 22 tracks from Cubase through it so the project can be mixed old school style, at least that’s what the tech department told me…
does anyone know this mixer? can you confirm it’s ability?

best, Kevin